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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by troyvit »

fn-mote wrote: post #42
himata4113 wrote: post #21

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Yes! This is the way, give parents the ABILITY to advertise the users age to browsers, apps and everything in between. Only target cooperations, do not target open source projects. Fine websites for not using this API (ex: porn sites). Assume an adult if not present.

> Fine websites for not using this API (ex: porn sites). Recent posters here are clear that porn sites are setting every available signal that they are serving adult-only content. According to them, you are targeting the wrong audience. Facebook/Instagram studying how to get young users addicted should be of greater concern. I have my doubts about the effectiveness of age-based blocking there, though.

> Facebook/Instagram studying how to get young users addicted should be of greater concern. I have my doubts about the effectiveness of age-based blocking there, though.

Yeah quite the opposite. Once they have that formalized attestation they will move in like sharks.

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Post by iamnothere »

bix6 wrote: post #54

O great more big money warping our lives for the worse. I’d write my senator but they won’t do shit. Is there anything that can seriously be done?

Download the source code and ISOs of distros without age gating and put them on durable media. Tell your friends about the issue and its implications (legislating how an OS works is a huge deal, is likely unconstitutional, and opens up the door to all kinds of future abusive laws). Find like minded people so if the worst happens you will have mutual support and can work together on circumvention of any future restrictions. Work on your C skills.

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Post by [deleted] »

PeterisP wrote: post #123
someguyiguess wrote: post #85

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I probably don't have all the info on the various laws across the US and EU that are being pushed, but I'm confused why Linux distros don't just update their licensing and add a notice on the installation screen that it is illegal to run their OS in places where these laws exist? Heck, Linus Torvalds should just add an amendment to the next release of the Linux Kernel that makes it illegal to use in any jurisdiction…

That would be a violation of the copyright law or the GPL licence - you aren't permitted to take GPL code and redistribute it with some extra restrictions added on to it. If it's not (fully) your code, you aren't free to set the licence conditions; Linus can't do that without getting approval from 100% (not 99% or so) of authors who contributed code. What one can do is add an informative disclaimer saying "To the bes…

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Post by dyauspitr »

throw8fasdffdf wrote: post #198

I'm surprised the "laboratory" of the globalist elite, India, hasn't implemented this yet. Digital-ID (Aadhar) was heavily pushed by USAID and other US-deepstate associates; the same with digital-money and the "demonetization". Bill Gates's org actively tests out things on actual humans like guinea pigs, before globalizing the "solutions". These days all of this is kind of redundant since the phone-number + verificat…

Your take in this entire ends up with you blaming Bill Gates like some MAGA tinhat? The GOP are literally the cabal of pedophilic, privacy ending, freedom crushing elites you’re looking for and this is somehow your perspective?

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Post by fredgrott »

If we want really a set up where a child does not access it...

Psychology has a higher success rate...just tell them that their parents use it....

There are many systems where accuracy is loose and that is its core feature...for example postal addresses worldwide...I can a mistake in the address but the letter or package will still get there...

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Post by tokai »

duskdozer wrote: post #156
soulofmischief wrote: post #142

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I'll go further. As a human being, I am responsible for myself. I grew up in an extremely abusive, impoverished, cult-like religious home where anything not approved by White Jesus was disallowed. I owe everything about who I am today to learning how to circumvent firewalls and other forms of restriction. I would almost certainly be dead if I hadn't learned to socialize and program on the web despite it being strictl…

This is obviously where it's going to go, at least in the US. Things that are non-religious, non-Christian especially, pro-LGBT, and similar will be disproportionately pulled under "adult content" to ensure that children are not able to be exposed to unapproved ideas during formative years.

That has already been going on for decades, with satanic panic and banning of library books.

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Post by [deleted] »

inetknght wrote: post #188
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #161

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Because it's absurd to allow children to simply click "I am 18." Nowhere else works like this.

> Nowhere else works like this. Are you serious? Because this comment doesn't make it sound like you're serious. EULAs and the like allow adults to simply click "I accept". That's apparently the way contracts work these days. Speaking of contracts: children aren't allowed to sign contracts. So those apps that children are using with EULAs? It's absurd to allow adults to simply click "I accept". We need to have "accep…

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Post by iamnothere »

mrtesthah wrote: post #201
iamnothere wrote: post #64

For a project attempting to track these and coordinate technical resistance, see: https://github.com/AntiSurv/oss-anti-surveillance These bills also need to be opposed on a legal/political level. Something I realized last night is that people who lie about their age to send false signals may inadvertently open themselves up to CFAA liability (a felony ). So this is a serious matter for users who want to maintain anon…

Did that link just get taken down?

I can still access it, is it blocked for you?

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by mrtesthah »

nobodyandproud wrote: post #16

Jesus. As an American I can do my part, but it’s not much. $70 million is chump change for Meta, yet is far more money than I’ll ever have and does so much to influence state legislation.

We should ask ourselves why we continue to participate and perpetuate economic systems that result in levels of inequality so vast that they threaten control of our democracy.
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