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Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by staticassertion »

Jerrrrrrrry wrote: post #210
kvgr wrote: post #195

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Yeah, i wonder what was the fiber i take for someone from egypt or hunter gatherers. I get it that in our modern diet, fiber is better than sugar and plastic stuff made in factories combining oils and sugar into something that looks like food. But if a person is regular and does not have any gut issues, how would more fiber help?

99% of humans ate meat, amd fruits occasionally. Fiber does nothing.

lol this is such utter bullshit? I'm blown away by how confidently stated and how utterly incorrect this is.

1. Ancient egyptians ate fucktons of wheat and barley, lentils, chickpeas, etc. They ate massive amounts of fiber lol I mean holy fuck I just can't believe how wrong you are?

2. Fiber is very, very well understood by ALL health organizations to be preventative for colon cancer.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by [deleted] »

Guid_NewGuid wrote: post #147
z9e wrote: post #107

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Yeah. Amazing how people on a forum are offering their opinions on something. Let’s point and laugh at them. /s I’m more amazed at the toxic (no pun intended) comments in this post. It seems HN isn’t a place to voice health theories.

There's a difference between informed speculation and uninformed speculation and most of the opinions so far fall into uninformed speculation where the writer implicitly blames those suffering for poor diet and lifestyle choices. In addition a lot of the speculation assumes something specific to the US where this is a trend in multiple countries, predominantly high income ones[0][1], but this speculation that it migh…

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Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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zthrowaway wrote: post #199
cmcaleer wrote: post #117

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Gut cleanses are probably stupid but I wonder if people would benefit from taking antiparasitics prophylactically. It's not something I've ever done, but I eat sashimi pretty regularly and wonder if I should take something like praziquantel because I'm probably at risk for Japanese broad tapeworm, and the symptoms are mild enough I can't really tell without testing, but the price of actually testing is much higher th…

Gut cleanses is really just a herbal medicine protocol you do for a few weeks. Herbal medicine is not stupid, it has been used for thousands of years. Hell even some pharmaceutical drugs use herbs.

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Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by swat535 »

furyofantares wrote: post #188
achandra03 wrote: post #104

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I think this is probably due to people suffering from the just-world fallacy. Most folks like to believe that if you do the right things and consume the right stuff you'll have a long and healthy life when the fact of the matter is that luck/randomness plays a much larger role in your health than most people would like to admit.

That plus not realizing that dealing with your chronic illness can be as much or more than a full time job, and the people with them tend to know MOUNTAINS more than you do about it.

Yes, these are true, doing the right thing, eating well and taking caring of yourself is not a magical bullet.

However it's irrefutable that exercising, sleeping and nutrition improves your health.

Will it prevent you from ever getting cancer? no, but it sure helps.

My mother passed away from cancer, she always exercised and took care of herself, it made the quality of her life much better. Looking back, she would have suffered much more had she not done that.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by boringg »

staticassertion wrote: post #211
Jerrrrrrrry wrote: post #210

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99% of humans ate meat, amd fruits occasionally. Fiber does nothing.

lol this is such utter bullshit? I'm blown away by how confidently stated and how utterly incorrect this is. 1. Ancient egyptians ate fucktons of wheat and barley, lentils, chickpeas, etc. They ate massive amounts of fiber lol I mean holy fuck I just can't believe how wrong you are? 2. Fiber is very, very well understood by ALL health organizations to be preventative for colon cancer.

You shouldn't feed the trolls.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by staticassertion »

boringg wrote: post #215
staticassertion wrote: post #211

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lol this is such utter bullshit? I'm blown away by how confidently stated and how utterly incorrect this is. 1. Ancient egyptians ate fucktons of wheat and barley, lentils, chickpeas, etc. They ate massive amounts of fiber lol I mean holy fuck I just can't believe how wrong you are? 2. Fiber is very, very well understood by ALL health organizations to be preventative for colon cancer.

You shouldn't feed the trolls.

Maybe, but the person they're responding to seemed to be genuine in their question, and I worry that they'll read a statement like "they mostly ate meat" and think it's plausible when it's insanely incorrect.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by kjkjadksj »

gavinray wrote: post #96
kjkjadksj wrote: post #82

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Probably nothing to worry about. Unless it is lynch syndrome.

I have two SNP's for Lynch syndrome, is that enough to warrant concern? https://i.imgur.com/DZiJhGJ.png https://i.imgur.com/PKF2QDr.png

Any family history? I would speak to a genetic counselor if you are concerned. I’m not sure how your data are presented if you actually have lynch syndrome or things associated with lynch.

The idea with lynch is that you are heterozygous for having a working mismatch repair mechanism that corrects certain DNA errors. And in the tumor sometimes you get a ‘second hit’ mutation to this, taking out your only good copy of mismatch repair, creating a different sort of tumor as a lot of DNA error isn’t getting repaired. This sort of tumor responds well to pd1 therapy.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by rootusrootus »

archagon wrote: post #179
JKCalhoun wrote: post #129

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My first colonoscopy was without anesthesia, and it was as described above. A little uncomfortable on the one bend, but I don't even think I would put it at 7/10 (perhaps a 4 or 5—but not a sharp pain, mind you). Definitely enjoyed the following times with anesthesia because, of course 0/10 as far as I know. Also, anesthesia just trips my mind—how seemingly time travel (going forward in time) seems to be involved.

Sounds a bit like the transnasal esophagoscopy I opted for recently in lieu of an upper endoscopy. Thin tube through nose, then down into the esophagus. Uncomfortable while threading it through (chest pain, like swallowing a sharp tortilla chip), but ultimately not a big deal, and done in-office in about 15 minutes.

I may be getting one of those in the next few months. Just had a regular upper endoscopy for dysphagia, and they were unable to solve it or even conclusively identify a cause. They warned me that this transnasal procedure would be next. Sounds like fun...

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by anonymous344 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #34
anonymous344 wrote: post #31

the 1 reason for colon cancer is milk. it's not natural anymore and casein makes it's problems because the fat is altered by homogenization. second is whey and monsanto. third is canola oils. fourth is cirtric acid, it's not from citrus. and it's everywhere, in every beverage, juice and preserved food, even in beers. eat healthy my lads. trust not the media

Those are some big claims, which without any references at all smell a lot like bro science.

for you double and triple jabbd, no evidence is enough. im not here even trying to convince u, just stating what is obvious. there are studies, but you won't believe them because 10 other studies paid by the canola companies state otherwise

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by kimos »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #91
gniv wrote: post #40

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The prep is by far the worst of it. I wish they could do it differently.

I've done it enough times that I'm totally fine with it: the electrolyte drink tastes like slightly bad-tasting Gatorade, which is hardly worth caring about. And you get diarrhea-like bathroom runs half a dozen times maybe. Yes it was annoying to get the runs and gross to drink the stuff the first few times, but people eat things like cow tongue or live octopus or whatever... I can handle some bad-tasting Gatorade an…

People react differently. I took the same prep but the waves of nausea and cramping were so intensely painful I sweat through all my clothes and passed out on the toilet. It was some of the worst hours of my life. I’m just over 40 and have some symptoms to check which turned out to be benign, but it was such a harrowing experience I will be doing this as infrequently as possible.
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