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US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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It's currently historically accurate. It's aged 250 years so far. Civil war? Elections. WWII? Elections. Covid? Elections.

Wake up. Things are different this time in case you haven’t noticed

Things are absolutely different, but there is no mechanism in the constitution for canceling elections.

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The US held elections during the Civil War. There is no crisis that would create a situation where elections "cannot be held". That is to say, if the current admin attempts to suspend elections, the legality of that and the magnitude of the reaction will be the same, crisis or no.

Account created Jan 6 2020. Now downplaying the current admin attempts.... hmmm.....

How are they downplaying it? Trump can try all he wants, but there is no mechanism in the constitution that allows him to do that. He wasn't successful in 2020 and he won't be successful this time.

The GOP won't even kill the fillibuster in the senate because they know change is coming.

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Depends, I just want to point out that the US is a net exporter of Oil. They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. If the goal was to hurt China / BRICS and kneecap Iran it seems on point. It's always hard to predict how the USA will vote when "war" is happening.

“If the goal was the hurt China…” You are mistaken to assume there was a goal. Trump has admitted he did this because he was told that Iran were about to attack the U.S. not because of any strategic goal. https://youtube.com/shorts/YlkcOjSQVJk

Oh no, it's coming right for us!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaazFYTrQ_A&pp=ygUYaXQncyBjb21...

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I heard a theory that since someone told Trump that Ukraine wouldn't hold elections until after the war, he thought America had the same law.

He has lived through multiple wars where elections were held. I do not think highly of the man, but he would have to be pretty bad off to come to that belief.

If you listen to him talk and the things he actually says, it's hard to escape the conclusion that he's losing his grip on reality as he ages.

The mainstream media is incredibly generous to him, they parse out the non-crazy from his word salad and report on that.

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An Iraqi security source said they think it was an Iranian boat rigged with explosives. If Iran does have underwater explosive drones, why would they boast about it and invite attacks upon that weapon and its deployment systems?

Iran has two clear win conditions in this war: cause enough pain that the US withdraws (unlikely given the current admin), or wait until US midterms and hope the Dems secure a victory and use the war powers resolution to end the war.

The more FUD they can generate around transport in the strait of Hermuz the better for them.

Maybe they have this capability and maybe they don’t, but they are clearly able to hit these tankers with something. Ukraine has been using these drones so it’s entirely possible Iran has this tech too.

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These people live on manufacturing crisis after crisis in order to exploit the manic status that they generate. Why worry about how the midterms, if you can create a situation where elections cannot be held at all...? Yes, it sounds crazy right now, but a lot of things sounded similarly crazy 10 years ago, and here we are.

There is no crisis in the US that results in canceled elections

Yet.

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A lot of the world tried to shift to renewables during the ~10-year-long 1970s embargo. They went straight back to sweet old oil afterwards. This isn't gonna last nearly as long. Don't get me wrong, I hope and pray that renewables get a boost out of this, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

Really not sure you can compare solar and wind energy from the 1970s to the highly efficient modern solar and wind solutions of today. Really.

I suppose that the specifics of what I said were mistaken, but the general sentiment remains the same. It doesn't seem like this conflict will last as long as the embargo, and when one of the largest investors into new technologies has firmly refused to acknowledge the necessities of renewables, progress and adoption will certainly slow down.

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> It will hurt everyone, Americans included, oil is a global market, fertilisers are a global market, those are basic inputs for probably every single thing produced in the world. Only because those countries choose for that to be the case. For example, Saudi Arabia and Russia don't do that. Local prices and export prices are different. But the US, Canada, the Netherlands, and long list of other countries could make…

>But the US, Canada, the Netherlands, and long list of other countries could make this crisis have zero effect on local prices. The US Government cannot force US companies to sell at a lower domestic price if they can get a higher price exporting. I know that God-Emperor Trump pretends that he can command the oil sector to make less money, but he can't. >For example, Saudi Arabia and Russia don't do that 2 countries…

> The US Government cannot force US companies to sell at a lower domestic price if they can get a higher price exporting.

That's not a mechanism that anyone is proposing. The US government can, however, apply an export tariff that's used to subsidize local prices.

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Are they? We have so much stuff that we just throw things away if a tiny piece of it gets tarnished / broken. The US's population density is pretty low and we have a ton of land not in cities that's very sparsely populated. Like it largely seems that geopolitics of now is about creating scarcity.

> Like it largely seems that geopolitics of now is about creating scarcity. How else do you create scarcity except by controlling all the resources?

Convincing people something is scare or artificially creating scarcity.

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I’m keeping a link to this comment to see how well it ages

It's currently historically accurate. It's aged 250 years so far. Civil war? Elections. WWII? Elections. Covid? Elections.

In your world view is it possible for empires to fall?

If so, why do you think this is not relevant to this particular empire at this particular time?

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