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I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology wasn't ready (or something along the lines). Also, I remember reading this guy has close ties to Anthropic. Also, I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere. Like Big Tech and the establishment are propping podcasts of controlled narrative/…

Also Anthropic has made very clear they align closely with the DoW. Really Anthropic doesn't seem to be fighting for anyone but a narrow subset of people. So who cares, none of the but AI providers are particularly ethical. Pick your poison as your conscious and needs allow.

“Go now and die in what way seems best to you”

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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My point is that they are a small subset of AI.

Bro wtf, this is like saying "I really hate how people say trees == plants" and then when challenged saying you merely meant that there are more plants than just trees. No shit, everybody knows that. What the fuck was the point?

The point is that people equate AI with general intelligence, and the shortcut between LLMs and general intelligence is a bad one.

Yes LLMs can do surprisingly well at a bunch of tasks, but broca’s area will never replace a human. And yet that’s the sort of mental shortcut people make on the daily. Bro.

Perhaps not this sophisticated audience, but I witness it personally every day.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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post #212

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Bro wtf, this is like saying "I really hate how people say trees == plants" and then when challenged saying you merely meant that there are more plants than just trees. No shit, everybody knows that. What the fuck was the point?

The point is that people equate AI with general intelligence, and the shortcut between LLMs and general intelligence is a bad one. Yes LLMs can do surprisingly well at a bunch of tasks, but broca’s area will never replace a human. And yet that’s the sort of mental shortcut people make on the daily. Bro. Perhaps not this sophisticated audience, but I witness it personally every day.

The real thing to lament is that people think AI==AGI, and by extension that LLMs==AGI. Which they definitely aren't.

But the mistake is thinking AI is AGI, rather than thinking LLMs are AI. Which is just true, as the term has been defined since its inception in the 50s.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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post #18

But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology wasn't ready (or something along the lines). Also, I remember reading this guy has close ties to Anthropic. Also, I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere. Like Big Tech and the establishment are propping podcasts of controlled narrative/…

Agreed. There is way too much money in flight to believe that anything people say in public is true. If there was ever a time to get rich as a spin doctor it’s now.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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post #213
post #212

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The point is that people equate AI with general intelligence, and the shortcut between LLMs and general intelligence is a bad one. Yes LLMs can do surprisingly well at a bunch of tasks, but broca’s area will never replace a human. And yet that’s the sort of mental shortcut people make on the daily. Bro. Perhaps not this sophisticated audience, but I witness it personally every day.

The real thing to lament is that people think AI==AGI, and by extension that LLMs==AGI. Which they definitely aren't. But the mistake is thinking AI is AGI, rather than thinking LLMs are AI. Which is just true, as the term has been defined since its inception in the 50s.

I’ll admit to having expressed myself wrong. I think we agree on the substance.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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post #193

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Why are you trying to change the meaning of their comment?

They are changing the meaning of the original text. It does not say “workers.”

It says "workforce": workforce (noun): the _people_ engaged in or available for work, either in a country or area or in a particular company or industry.

Machinery is not part of the "workforce".

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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It’s the usual feigned comparison. America is a republic and if you don’t agree well, go to Reddit and argue about it; meanwhile China is just a dictatorship. American “crimes“ are dismissed with some rhetorical non-response like “hmmph, no one claimed we are perfect”, or immediately contrasted with some arbitrary Chinese “crime”, then dropped just as fast; even someone bringing up contemporary killing of Iranian sch…

> American “crimes“ are dismissed with some rhetorical non-response like “hmmph, no one claimed we are perfect”, or immediately contrasted with some arbitrary Chinese “crime”, then dropped just as fast America debates and exhibits its faults, at least internally. The Tulsa Massacre is a movie and cultural discussion point in a way Tiananmen Square is not in China. Neither should have happened. And neither is universa…

Yeah you talk about how you stumble into wars. Then you do it again. Then eventually it gets relegated to bah, but who is perfect. (Let me tell you who is not perfect: it’s China)

This is a concept that a twelve-year-old has enough ego formation to understand. Not so for the shared nationalistic consciousness.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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post #93

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His Zelensky interview suggests otherwise

It's interesting that's the only interview when he challenged someone.

That's quite incredible. I had noticed that Fridman never challenges anybody. As a separate point, I never watched his interview with Zelensky because I read a headline somewhere about that interview that made me sick. I guess he did challenge somebody finally. Disgusting.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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You are just sidestepping the discussion.

> You are just sidestepping the discussion I'm avoiding an irrelevant sideline. Big difference.

You started the sideline by diverging from another sideline. You are just wiggling around in all your discussions.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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> American “crimes“ are dismissed with some rhetorical non-response like “hmmph, no one claimed we are perfect”, or immediately contrasted with some arbitrary Chinese “crime”, then dropped just as fast America debates and exhibits its faults, at least internally. The Tulsa Massacre is a movie and cultural discussion point in a way Tiananmen Square is not in China. Neither should have happened. And neither is universa…

Yeah you talk about how you stumble into wars. Then you do it again. Then eventually it gets relegated to bah , but who is perfect. (Let me tell you who is not perfect: it’s China) This is a concept that a twelve-year-old has enough ego formation to understand. Not so for the shared nationalistic consciousness.

Your responses seem politically charged and not in good faith. You've failed to actually engage with what the person you're responding to wrote several times now.

What is your goal here?

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