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Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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If I produce and sell widgets in my widget shop, then nobody but me gets to decide how I make those widgets. The government can come into my shop and order sixty thousand widgets built exactly the way they say they want them built, and it may be something that doesn't run afoul of any laws at all. But that doesn't mean that I am required or compelled to build widgets their way -- or at all. I'm free to tell them to f…

And that’s what’s happening here. The government is telling Anthropic to fuck off and they are finding someone else

... No?

The government signed a contract with Anthropic, then changed their minds and decided they don't like the terms of the agreement that they had already voluntarily signed, and then they designated Anthropic a supply chain risk.

It's like ordering a pizza to the Pentagon, and then saying "actually we made a mistake with our order; we want that pizza delivered to Venezuela, please do that". And then when Dominos politely says that's outside of their service area, you call them a threat to national security, say they're trying to dictate terms, and ban them from ever doing business with any of your vendors ever again.

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Oh no, I will. They're absolutely culpable.

I think the DNC and the media might need to get some of that blame for being empty vessels for corporate interests that allowed this conman to get elected twice

Voters knew who trump was and chose him. They deserve all the blame. As a voting adult ur choices have consequences. All voters who voted trump or third party deserve all the consequences

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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It was really easy to close out my ChatGPT account and switch to Claude. I was really only there out of inertia. I don’t do anything beyond occasional free tier stuff like rubber ducking but so far Claude is so much better.

But for how long? If Claude is a supply chain risk. That means anyone hosting him would also be a supply chain risk.

Ergo AWS/Azure/GCP - nobody will host them because it’s Anthropic or the lucrative government contracts. Hegseth/Trump didn’t just say “you’ll never do business with the US” - it’s that they will never do business IN the US. Hopefully that means they’ll be able to take up shop elsewhere in the world.

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I said it before and I say it again: If openly bribing a crony gov to cancel your competitor is now the de-facto standard of making business in the US, I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment. When the rule of law degrades into pay-to-play politics, the inevitable result is a mass exodus of both capital and top-tier talent. And to add to this quoting another commentat…

Investor: "here's a million dollars for a ballroom, it'd be real nice if you cancelled the government's contract with our investment's competitors." Seems like a great ROI. The loser is Average Joe with a 401(k).

Actually $25 million, and for him specifically (https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/brockman-openai-top-trum...). They didn't bother trying to pretend it was a non-political donation, who cares? Nobody can stop them.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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It's not an "implementation detail." Either obeying contract law subjects you to being designated a supply-chain risk, or it does not, and that decision has ramifications outside this "implementation."

Irrelevant. The president holds all the cards, he is above the law and you are a supply chain risk if you ask anything else other than “how high” when you are told to jump. Laws or contracts are things in the past. The most a contract can do is define your limits and obligations, not your rights or privileges,

If the president can come to your house and burn it down, do we just throw up our hands and say, well he holds all the cards, oh well. Or do we call that out as being a bad thing?

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The US Military's demand that the product they purchase is able to be used for all lawful purposes seems pretty reasonable, and is really the only valid line to draw. Forcing one's own ethics onto the military's use of your product is nonsensical on its face.

The right response is to not use the said product and use something else. If i want your widget to do something I want and you refuse, I don't get to smash your shop.

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If Anthropic changes course will you move to Gemini? If all models do, local llama I assume?

Mistral is European and has competitive models. DeepSeek is Chinese. Avoiding the MAGA collaborators is not as difficult as you make it seem. Foundation models have genuine global competition.

Mistral models are competitive? I thought they were far behind
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