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Uh speak for yourself but some of us are doing the good crimes and would rather like to continue that fight from outside prison and without being shot in the face.
Go team.
An interactive map of Flock Cams
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Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#212This is probably not a helpful comment because it's basically a daydreamers fantasy, but here goes... Doesn't all the surveillance concern go away if we just remove license plates from cars? Our plates identify us nearly perfectly.
Flock provide more than just ALPRs. They also have systems that track people.
It actually annoys me that people focus purely on the ALPRs when the other cameras are arguably much worse.
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#213I'm gonna get downvoted for this. But I'd like cameras in my neighborhood. Sure, there's a security risk but there's also a risk of not catching criminals due to lack of evidence. Tons of crimes aren't prosecuted due to the lack of evidence. A security risk doesn't impact average people, and it can be handled more easily.
One of the main arguments against flock is their abysmal security, lack of transparency, and flagrant dishonesty. If they solved these problems then we can have a discussion about the cameras themselves. I personally would have less of a problem with them if the footage was locked down, encrypted and could only be accessed with a subpoena, but law enforcement really want dragnet surveillance, so that's unlikely to occur.
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#214This is probably not a helpful comment because it's basically a daydreamers fantasy, but here goes... Doesn't all the surveillance concern go away if we just remove license plates from cars? Our plates identify us nearly perfectly.
The reality is that most people are tolerant of, if not supportive of surveiling car traffic. If tracking vehicle movements on public roads is such a bad thing, there'd be overwhelming support for removing license plates from vehicles. The whole purpose of a license plate is to facilitate surveillance of vehicles.
But of course, most people aren't in favor of that. They realize that cars are dangerous and behavior like speeding and running red lights needs to be claimed down on. When people are victims of crimes they like it when the police are able to track down the perpetrators - and traffic cameras are good at facilitating that. Outside of the HN bubble there's at lot less reflexive rejection of cameras.
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#215I personally know 3 victims of brutally violent crime. Flock would have detected, but maybe not prevented, two of these cases, where violence occurred in broad, open daylight near main roads and highways. Crimes occurred in left-leaning, anti-police small midwest city. All of the victims were women. I would encourage anti-Flockers and anti-authority individuals out here to question their motives and make sure that th…
When we no longer have concentration camps whose victims are located via Flock, then I'll be okay with them. It's not hypothetical, it's happening right now.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/ice-deaths-s... | https://atlpresscollective.com/2025/11/13/atlanta-police-flo... | https://immpolicytracking.org/policies/reported-ice-accessin... | https://jsis.washington.edu/humanrights/2025/10/21/leaving-t... | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/how-cops-are-using-flo...
They're putting people in pens and then murdering them, and using Flock cameras to round them up.
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> This is a quite scary map. It can be. FLOCK data was used to put Bryan Kohberger at the scene along with other people's security camera's. Cops regularly use FLOCK camera's to get hits for criminals that have warrants for violent crime. I can see why people are ok with them when they're used to get criminals off the streets. However, I've seen multiple times where cops initiate a felony stop (where people are pull…
Do you have a source to your Bryan claim? If you look at the map, there are zero flock cameras reported in that region. None in Moscow Idaho where the murder happened, none in Pullman where he lived, and none showed between the locations.
I can't find anything corroborating that example either.
I've been seeing a lot of similar grandiose claims made in random comments/Tweets/etc recently that Flock solved this or that specific high profile case that have also turned up zero proof when I did research.
I'm not sure whether it's just individual techno optimist fantasy that somehow becomes confabulated in the brain with some other crime in the news as if Flock was actually used, an organized persuasion/lobbying/misinformation campaign, or something else. But I'm seeing it a lot now which feels a bit concerning.
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
When your car gets stolen, even with camera data, the police will not do anything.
I've yet to see an amount of property crime that can get the cops to lift a finger. I've seen them ignore a low-six-figures-stolen string of after-hours break-ins at businesses, captured at multiple location on camera with clear shots of the vehicle, legible plates, and faces of the perps. Just straight-up gave the impression they thought anyone believing they might want to look into it was a moron. And no, given whe…
I do blame cops and prosecutors.
But it's also your neighbors, friends, and co-workers who yell at cops and prosecutors to not arrest nor charge property crimes.
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#218I personally know 3 victims of brutally violent crime. Flock would have detected, but maybe not prevented, two of these cases, where violence occurred in broad, open daylight near main roads and highways. Crimes occurred in left-leaning, anti-police small midwest city. All of the victims were women. I would encourage anti-Flockers and anti-authority individuals out here to question their motives and make sure that th…
My vehicle was stolen in an area with Flock cams. It did not help at all.
That sucks. Sorry to hear it
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#219I personally know 3 victims of brutally violent crime. Flock would have detected, but maybe not prevented, two of these cases, where violence occurred in broad, open daylight near main roads and highways. Crimes occurred in left-leaning, anti-police small midwest city. All of the victims were women. I would encourage anti-Flockers and anti-authority individuals out here to question their motives and make sure that th…
It sounds like your point is that people should be willing to give up their privacy in return for the chance of detecting (not preventing) violent crimes. I think it's also disingenuous (or at best, completely naive) to pretend like harm from Flock and other surveillance is hypothetical/theoretical. Here are just 2 recent examples of REAL harm: https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/crime/2026/01/12/men... https://k…
Maybe they should require a warrant and log access? Do you think this could be solved with access control?
Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams
#220This is a quite scary map. They are all over my local area. It may technically be possible to route a drive around them, but if you take the most convenient path between any two points at least one camera will spot you. I'd have to leave my neighborhood through back roads and enter local shopping areas through sidestreets. This data shouldn't even be collected in the first place, let alone consolidated into a nationa…
Download osm data, extract roads and surveillance, gpd overlay how=difference, remove/edit the different osmid's, write to pbf file, convert to obf file w/ osmandmapcreator, import into OsmAnd. Now you have turn by turn navigation around ALPRs on your phone. Edit: link https://github.com/pickpj/Big-B-Router - I tend to find ALPRs that are missing in the OSM data, so keep on updating OSM data.
I made a version which does the avoidance dynamically at runtime, works for any tracks you want to use: https://alprwatch.org/navigation. It works fully offline after you download the maps and overlays