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Our Agreement with the Department of War

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Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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> For intelligence activities, any handling of private information will comply with the Fourth Amendment, the National Security Act of 1947 and the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act of 1978, Executive Order 12333, and applicable DoD directives requiring a defined foreign intelligence purpose. The AI System shall not be used for unconstrained monitoring of U.S. persons’ private information as consistent with t…

Bingo.

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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> For intelligence activities, any handling of private information will comply with the Fourth Amendment, the National Security Act of 1947 and the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act of 1978, Executive Order 12333, and applicable DoD directives requiring a defined foreign intelligence purpose. The AI System shall not be used for unconstrained monitoring of U.S. persons’ private information as consistent with t…

This is hilarious. I see their lawyers got together to find the most confusing way they could word it to throw people off and let everybody claim it says whatever's best for their own PR.

"Shall not be used as consistent with these authorities"?

So they shall only be used inconsistently with these authorities? That's the literal reading if you assume there's no typo.

Or did they forget a crucial comma that would imply they shall not use it, to the extent this provision is consistent with their authorities?

Or did they forget the comma but it was supposed to mean that they shall not use it, to the extent that not-doing so would be consistent with their authorities?

You gotta hand it to the lawyers, I'm not sure I could've thought of wording this deliberately confusing if they'd given me a million dollars.

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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> For intelligence activities, any handling of private information will comply with the Fourth Amendment, the National Security Act of 1947 and the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act of 1978, Executive Order 12333, and applicable DoD directives requiring a defined foreign intelligence purpose. The AI System shall not be used for unconstrained monitoring of U.S. persons’ private information as consistent with t…

Open ai, the former non-profit, whose board tried to fire the CEO for being deceptive, which is no longer open at all, isn't exactly about ethics these days. Even on a personal level: OpenAI has changed it's privacy policy twice to let them gather data on me they weren't before. A lot of steps to disable it each time, tons of dark patterns. And the data checkout just bugs out too, it's a fake feature to hide how much…

So why would we want them setting policy for the DoD? Laws are enacted through a fundamentally democratic process defined over hundreds of years. Why wouldn’t that be the way to govern use of tools?

Why would we want to trade our constitution for, effectively, “rules Sam Altman came up with”?

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

#215

> Fully autonomous weapons. The cloud deployment surface covered in our contract would not permit powering fully autonomous weapons, as this would require edge deployment. Can anyone explain this constraint? Why do fully autonomous weapons require edge deployment? Does "fully autonomous" in this context mean "disconnected from the Internet"? If so, can a drone with Internet connectivity use OpenAI? Or maybe it's abou…

Could just be latency. You don't want your terminator killbot to take 200ms to decide where to aim.

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Vibe killing"

Wow. This word pair will surely become part of common language soon. I’d say we are making this simulation quite interesting, aren’t we.

Reading that phrase made me physically shudder.

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open ai, the former non-profit, whose board tried to fire the CEO for being deceptive, which is no longer open at all, isn't exactly about ethics these days. Even on a personal level: OpenAI has changed it's privacy policy twice to let them gather data on me they weren't before. A lot of steps to disable it each time, tons of dark patterns. And the data checkout just bugs out too, it's a fake feature to hide how much…

So why would we want them setting policy for the DoD? Laws are enacted through a fundamentally democratic process defined over hundreds of years. Why wouldn’t that be the way to govern use of tools? Why would we want to trade our constitution for, effectively, “rules Sam Altman came up with”?

Use its real name, the one orange shitler renamed it to: the department of war.

Why the fuck does the department of war get to dictate anything to a private organization?

Why does the constitution say that you have to let the government murder schoolgirls with your tools?

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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> For intelligence activities, any handling of private information will comply with the Fourth Amendment, the National Security Act of 1947 and the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act of 1978, Executive Order 12333, and applicable DoD directives requiring a defined foreign intelligence purpose. The AI System shall not be used for unconstrained monitoring of U.S. persons’ private information as consistent with t…

Open ai, the former non-profit, whose board tried to fire the CEO for being deceptive, which is no longer open at all, isn't exactly about ethics these days. Even on a personal level: OpenAI has changed it's privacy policy twice to let them gather data on me they weren't before. A lot of steps to disable it each time, tons of dark patterns. And the data checkout just bugs out too, it's a fake feature to hide how much…

The coup against Altman looks prescient. They knew who he was.

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

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post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laws that can be changed on a whim by "executive orders", or laws that apparently can be ignored completely, like international law.

No, executive orders can't change law and international law, unless ratified by congress, is not democratically legitimized and applicable law in the US to begin with

LOL. you really believe that?

Re: Our Agreement with the Department of War

#220
This is extremely interesting. OpenAI is putting a lot of emphasis on their deployment being cloud-based (presumably GovCloud/C2S). Was Anthropic willing and cleared to deploy their stack high-side in NIPR/SIPR?

If that is the case, then that means that Anthropic is theoretically close to supporting private sector on-prem model deployments AND that this solution is FedRAMP High, which is more than enough for financial sector and healthcare. AWS, GCP and nVIDIA (to a lesser degree) should be insanely worried if that's the case.

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