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Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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Critical services like email and search should be treated as a public utility. Those cost money as well, but are affordable to almost anyone, and social safety nets should be taking care of those who don’t.

Government email, sounds great. Sign me up.

I’m assuming a sane country where the right to privacy [0] holds.

[0] e.g.: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/American_Convention_on_Human_...

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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> After giving them a fair shot, I think I can now honestly say that Brave and DuckDuckGo are better than Google for >90% of searches I've had DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine for years and I couldn't disagree with this more. DuckDuckGo is fine for quickly getting to well known sites where I can't remember the URL, but it's objectively worse for trying to find everything from Reddit threads to Recipes. Their de…

I had a similar experience with DDG. I felt like I had to add “!g” to everything, which doesn’t actually move one away from Google, it just creates friction. Kagi, however, has been a different experience for me. I haven’t felt the need to go to Google at all. If I can’t find it with Kagi, I’m confident I won’t find it with Google either. There have also been several times where I was on an outage call with a double…

I’ve also been using Kagi for the past ~2 years. At first I would always also search Google to see if I was missing out on better results, but after a couple of months I no longer bothered because Kagi did better 99% of the time. It’s worth the cost, I’d keep it over Netflix if I had to choose.

TLDR Kagi is what Google would have been if they had kept improving instead of transitioning to enshitifying ~10yrs ago.

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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I had a similar experience with DDG. I felt like I had to add “!g” to everything, which doesn’t actually move one away from Google, it just creates friction. Kagi, however, has been a different experience for me. I haven’t felt the need to go to Google at all. If I can’t find it with Kagi, I’m confident I won’t find it with Google either. There have also been several times where I was on an outage call with a double…

Isn't that because Kagi is just filtered Google results?

That’s what startpage does. Kagi has a lot of sources.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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I had a similar experience with DDG. I felt like I had to add “!g” to everything, which doesn’t actually move one away from Google, it just creates friction. Kagi, however, has been a different experience for me. I haven’t felt the need to go to Google at all. If I can’t find it with Kagi, I’m confident I won’t find it with Google either. There have also been several times where I was on an outage call with a double…

Isn't that because Kagi is just filtered Google results?

Kagi _does_ use Google results, but they also have their own index, as well as search filters to curate _your_ search result. Makes it easier to cut out the garbage.

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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Kagi sources their search results from Google.

This is false. Kagi had a post discussing this which made the front page of HN about a month ago [1]: > Google does not offer a public search API. The only available path is an ad-syndication bundle with no changes to result presentation - the model Startpage uses. Ad syndication is a non-starter for Kagi’s ad-free subscription model. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46708678

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Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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> After giving them a fair shot, I think I can now honestly say that Brave and DuckDuckGo are better than Google for >90% of searches I've had DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine for years and I couldn't disagree with this more. DuckDuckGo is fine for quickly getting to well known sites where I can't remember the URL, but it's objectively worse for trying to find everything from Reddit threads to Recipes. Their de…

Same experience here. DDG works fine for getting to that Wikipedia article with a non-obvious title, but any search where I'm less sure of what I'm looking for tends to fall flat on it's face, with zero sites of interest shown with any given search. Local (non-American, and even more so non-English) searches fail consistently. I'd imagine you could fix some of this problem if you could (massively) prioritise results…

> Since if Kagi does search as well as the Google of old, and I can adjust its searches to prioritise results from known good (to me) sites, then that probably is worth paying for

As I was saying in another thread Kagi is what Google would have been if they had kept improving instead of transitioning to enshitifying ~10yrs ago. If I had to pick I’d keep it over Netflix.

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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> After giving them a fair shot, I think I can now honestly say that Brave and DuckDuckGo are better than Google for >90% of searches I've had DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine for years and I couldn't disagree with this more. DuckDuckGo is fine for quickly getting to well known sites where I can't remember the URL, but it's objectively worse for trying to find everything from Reddit threads to Recipes. Their de…

That is also my experience with DuckDuckGo but all search engines. They ALL suck including Google Search. I don't know why, but the results are simply crap. > I thought there was going to be some substance to this post but it reads like someone congratulating themselves for a choice they made and then trying to backwards justify it. I don't read that. Where do you see a backwards justification? Do you know the decisi…

> They ALL suck including Google Search.

Kagi is the ONLY search engine I know that currently doesn’t suck and I highly recommend it to anyone who will listen. I would cancel almost any other subscription before Kagi.

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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> After giving them a fair shot, I think I can now honestly say that Brave and DuckDuckGo are better than Google for >90% of searches I've had DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine for years and I couldn't disagree with this more. DuckDuckGo is fine for quickly getting to well known sites where I can't remember the URL, but it's objectively worse for trying to find everything from Reddit threads to Recipes. Their de…

Not indexing Reddit is a feature not a flaw.

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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What if we had more specialized search engines? There should be a recipe aggregator that searches for recipes and nothing else, and prioritizes high value recipe sites.

Then we would need a search engine for search engines… Also, how would a search engine for recipes work? How does THAT search engine find when a new recipe site is created? It would be to scrape the whole internet just to find all the recipe sites….

> a search engine for search engines…

Everything old is new again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaCrawler

Re: Leaving Google has actively improved my life

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> After giving them a fair shot, I think I can now honestly say that Brave and DuckDuckGo are better than Google for >90% of searches I've had DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine for years and I couldn't disagree with this more. DuckDuckGo is fine for quickly getting to well known sites where I can't remember the URL, but it's objectively worse for trying to find everything from Reddit threads to Recipes. Their de…

Agreed...mostly. I've been using DDG for many years on and off (shoot, since they first became a thing), and for about 3 years full time. About 15% of my searches end with me adding !g to the end to perform a Google search. Google gets things right another 5-10% of the time. For the oddest of searches, I have to tweak my search terms several times to even attempt to figure out the answer. Search is hard. Breaking up…

> Maps is gone

what do you use? Gmaps doubles as a shop opening times checker and a multi transport journey planner for me

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