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Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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This project would love some additional support. If you're a developer who is interested in building this... please get in touch with them, the team is VERY small so you can do some good by just supporting them.

Saw this comment about developer hostility first, is there a response or critique out there?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47118328

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #207

Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

Maybe it could be what prescribed Methadone is to Heroin addicts.

I don't think that's a good analogy. You can't "hospitalize" someone into Loops for rehabilitation. Don't fight the symptoms, fight the cause.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

Yeah I can make a dropbox clone in a one-liner bash command too Outright dismissal like this should be judged as harshly as the comment itself.

At least dropbox isn't addictive brainrot lol

Even the peers I know that use TikTok admit they should really be using it less and that it's total slop.

It's truly the purest interpretation of junkfood in internet form

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have thought that the point of federation is not to require centralized servers that cost a lot to operate. But sure, something like this probably requires a fundamentally different revenue model. Maybe even the one where people donate to server operators.

centralized servers cost less to operate, that why data intensive applications centralize over time. That's division of labor. The higher the complexity the the higher degree of specialization. And a video service is very demanding. And you need to solve the economics first because otherwise your decentralized service is simply going to centralize over time to deal with demands for a more reliable and higher quality…

This so much, the Tiktok clones in ATProto face this same issue and several rely on Bluesky CDN & VC funding to have an acceptable UX (in terms of just delivering video content)

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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how good is the For You feed? the tiktok secret sauce is the creepy algorithm, who's clamoring for "crack but not addictive?"

It sounds like you’re suggesting federated crack…

locally sourced, organic, ethical

[south park clip] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyOzp9pR6iE

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

#216

The UX should be more "mass user" friendly if the goal is to attract mainstream users. Sign in with Apple/etc.. selecting a server is technical language and not end-user language etc.

Selecting a server is one of the reasons the fediverse appears to have not seriously challenged incumbents. As soon as a non-technical user sees this, they bounce.

Technical users like myself bounce too. It's why I build and play in the ATProto ecosystem ("the atmosphere")

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

Hackers sometimes create things not to actually use them, but because they are curious how something works and to see if they can

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #158

Ew. The content problem on TikTok was never the protocol, it's that 99% of short-form video is brainrot slop regardless of who hosts the servers. Slapping ActivityPub on it literally solves nothing for humanity.

I'm hopeful that the decoupling of algorithms (feeds) in ATProto can change this equation. For the tiktok clones and all the other apps.
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