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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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I have not run OpenClaw and similar frameworks because of security concerns, but I enjoy the author's success, good for him. There are very few companies who I trust with my digital data and thus trust to host something like OpenClaw and run it on my behalf: American Express, Capital One, maybe Proton, and *maybe* Apple. I managed an AI lab team at Capital One and personally I trust them. I am for local compute, priv…

You really trust them?

My trust does not extend that far.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #96

It’s not like Anthropic or OpenAI were not working on “AI assistants” before OpenClaw, it’s pretty much the endgame as I can see it. This guy just single handedly released something useful (and very insecure) before anyone else. Although that’s impressive, I don’t see more than an acquisition of the hype by OpenAI.

OpenAI has been running around headless for at least two years now. I've build systems like openclaw, based on email, at my day job and told OAI during an interview that they needed to build this or get smoked when someone else does. I guess aqi-hire is easier than building a team that can develop software internally.

Of course the S in openclaw is for security.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#214
For anyone looking at alternatives in this space - I built Gobii (https://gobii.ai) 8 months before OpenClaw existed. MIT licensed, cloud native, gVisor sandboxed.

The sandboxing part matters more than people think. Giving an LLM a browser with full network access and no isolation is a real security problem that most projects in this space hand-wave away.

Multi-provider LLM support (OpenAI, Anthropic, DeepSeek, open-weight models via vLLM). In production with paying customers.

Happy to answer architecture questions.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #96

It’s not like Anthropic or OpenAI were not working on “AI assistants” before OpenClaw, it’s pretty much the endgame as I can see it. This guy just single handedly released something useful (and very insecure) before anyone else. Although that’s impressive, I don’t see more than an acquisition of the hype by OpenAI.

My gut feeling is that OpenAI is desperately searching for The Killer App™ for LLMs and hired Peter to help guide them there. OpenAI has tried a lot of experiments over the years - custom GPTs, the Orion browser, Codex, the Sora "TikTok but AI" app, and all have either been uninspired or more-or-less clones of other products (like Codex as a response to Claude Code). OpenClaw feels compelling, fresh, sci-fi, and pote…

> the Sora "TikTok but AI" app

This product should never have seen the light of day, at least not for the general public. The amount of slop that is now floating across Tiktok, YT Shorts and Instagram is insane. Whenever you see a "cute animals" video, 99% of it is AI generated - and you can report and report and report these channels over and over, and the platforms don't care at all, but instead reward the slop creators from all the comments shouting that this is AI garbage and people responding they don't care because "it's cute".

OpenAI completely lacks any sort of ethical review board, and now we're all suffering from it.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#216

Potentially amazing opportunity for OpenAI to more meaningfully compete with Claude Code at the developer and hobbyist level. Based on vibes it sure seemed like Claude Code / Opus 4.6 was running away with developer mindshare. Peter single handedly got many of us taking Codex more seriously, at least that's my impression from the conversations I had. Openclaw has gotten more attention over the past 2 weeks than anyth…

> Peter single handedly got many of us taking Codex more seriously, at least that's my impression from the conversations I had. Comments like this feel confusing because I didn't have any association between Codex and OpenClaw before reading your comment. Codex was also seeing a lot of usage before OpenClaw. The whole OpenClaw hype bubble feels like there's a world of social media that I wasn't tapped into last month…

It's how Steve Yegge became a "father of agentic orchestration" or something - there is some Canonical Universe Building exercise somewhere on twitter that just looks, for the lack of a better word, not rigorous. But good for all these people, I guess, for riding the hype to glory.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #108

OpenClaw was one of the more interesting “edges” of the open AI tooling ecosystem — not because of scale, but because of taste and clarity of direction. What’s fascinating is the pattern we’re seeing lately: people who explored the frontier from the outside now moving inside the labs. That kind of permeability between open experimentation and foundational model companies seems healthy. Curious how this changes the fe…

I agree, it's an interesting distortion to the traditional technology feedback loop.

I would expect someone who "strikes gold" like this in a solo endeaver to raise money, start a company, hire a team. Then they have to solve the always challenging problem of how to monetize an open-source tool. Look at a company like Docker, they've been successful but they didn't capture more than a small fraction of the commercial revenue that the entire industry has paid to host the product they developed and maintain. Their peak valuation was over a billion dollars, but who knows by the time all is said and done what they'll be worth when they sell or IPO.

So if you invent something that is transformative to the industry you might work really hard for a decade and if you're lucky the company is worth $500M, if you can hang onto 20% of the company maybe it's worth $100M.

Or, you skip the decade in the trenches and get acqui-hired by a frontier lab who allegedly give out $100M signing bonuses to top talent. No idea if he got a comparable offer to a top researcher, but it wouldn't be unreasonable. Even a $10M package to skip a decade of risky & grueling work if all you really want to do is see the product succeed is a great trade.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#218

I have not run OpenClaw and similar frameworks because of security concerns, but I enjoy the author's success, good for him. There are very few companies who I trust with my digital data and thus trust to host something like OpenClaw and run it on my behalf: American Express, Capital One, maybe Proton, and *maybe* Apple. I managed an AI lab team at Capital One and personally I trust them. I am for local compute, priv…

Privacy aside, you can never trust an LLM with your data and trust it to do exactly what it was instructed to do.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#219

Is an agent running on a desktop, with access to excel, word, email and slack going to replace Saas? Add in databases, browser use, and the answer could be yes This could be the most disruptive software we have seen

If your SaaS is a CRUD with a shitty UI in React then yes

To be fair if you are not going interface with your SaaS via GUI it can be one big API for all I care. I’ll just chat and automate to it anyway.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#220

For anyone looking at alternatives in this space - I built Gobii ( https://gobii.ai ) 8 months before OpenClaw existed. MIT licensed, cloud native, gVisor sandboxed. The sandboxing part matters more than people think. Giving an LLM a browser with full network access and no isolation is a real security problem that most projects in this space hand-wave away. Multi-provider LLM support (OpenAI, Anthropic, DeepSeek, ope…

Looks good! I'm curious, are customers fine with their data going to third-party LLM providers?
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