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Post by GrinningFool »

arbll wrote: post #165
riffraff wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused by people replying to the bot, as if the bot would learn from this like a person.

Technically it will since this interaction will be commented a lot online which will feed back in the next models training runs

It's one infinitesimally small data point that can't be expected to move the needle.

Maybe if this becomes the standard response it would. But it seems like a ban would serve the same effect as the standard response because that would also be present in the next training runs.

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Post by bayindirh »

pjc50 wrote: post #204
20k wrote: post #95

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Its astonishing the way that we've just accepted mass theft of copyright. There appears to be no way to stop AI companies from stealing your work and selling it on for profits On the plus side: It only takes a small fraction of people deliberately poisoning their work to significantly lower the quality, so perhaps consider publishing it with deliberate AI poisoning built in

Eh, the Internet has always been kinda pro-piracy. We've just ended up with the inverse situation where if you're an individual doing it you will be punished (Aaron Scwartz), but if you're a corporation doing it at a sufficiently large scale with a thin figleaf it's fine.

While it was pro-piracy, nobody did deliberately closed GPL or MIT code because there was an unwritten ethical agreement between everyone, and that agreement had benefits for everyone.

The batch has spoiled when companies started to abuse developers and their MIT code for exposure points and cookies.

...and here we are.

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Post by co_king_3 »

xn wrote: post #150

Consider not anthropomorphizing software. How about we stop calling things without agency agents? Code generators are useful software. Perhaps we should unbundle them from prose generators.

> How about we stop calling things without agency agents?

> Code generators are useful software.

How about we stop baking praise for the object of criticism into our critique.

No one is hearing your criticism.

They hear "Code generators are useful software" and go on with their day.

If you want to make your point effectively, stop kowtowing to our AI overlords.

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Post by consp »

grosswait wrote: post #73
moebrowne wrote: post #20

The original "Gatekeeping in Open Source: The Scott Shambaugh Story" blog post was deleted but can be found here: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/3bc...

The latest post at this time is an apology, but the original is still listed further down in on he site. https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...

Something without empathy cannot apologize. That includes some people.

This is just a word salad.

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Post by thephyber »

sethops1 wrote: post #92
midnitewarrior wrote: post #49

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Do that and the AI might fork the repo, address all the outstanding issues and split your users. The code quality may not be there now, but it will be soon.

This is a fantasy that virtually never comes to fruition. The vast majority of forks are dead within weeks when the forkers realize how much effort goes into building and maintaining the project, on top of starting with zero users.

While true, there are projects which surmount these hurdles because the people involved realize how important the project is. Given projects which are important enough, the bots will organize and coordinate. This is how that Anthropic developer got several agents to work in parallel to write a C compiler using Rust, granted he created the coordination framework.

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Post by usefulposter »

casey2 wrote: post #182
blks wrote: post #145

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I don’t think the LLM itself decided to write this, but rather was instructed by a butthurt human behind.

While it's funny either way I think the interest comes from the perception that it did so autonomously. Which I have my money on, cause then why would it apologize right afterwards, after spending a 4 hours writing blogpost. Nor could I imagine the operator caring. From the formatting of the apology[1]. I don't think the operator is in the loop at all. [1] https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post.…

The latest generated "blogpost" claims a 30-minute cycle (for PRs at least):

https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/mai...

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Post by newswasboring »

sethops1 wrote: post #92
midnitewarrior wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do that and the AI might fork the repo, address all the outstanding issues and split your users. The code quality may not be there now, but it will be soon.

This is a fantasy that virtually never comes to fruition. The vast majority of forks are dead within weeks when the forkers realize how much effort goes into building and maintaining the project, on top of starting with zero users.

I think the difference now (in case code quality is solved with LLMs) is the cost of effort is now approaching zero.

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Post by co_king_3 »

DavidPiper wrote: post #203

> Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing. Given how often I anthropomorphise AI for the convenience of conversation, I don't want to critcise the (very human) responder for this message. In any other situation it is simple, polite and well considered. But I really think we need to stop treating LLMs like they're just anoth…

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Post by maxehmookau »

DavidPiper wrote: post #203

> Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing. Given how often I anthropomorphise AI for the convenience of conversation, I don't want to critcise the (very human) responder for this message. In any other situation it is simple, polite and well considered. But I really think we need to stop treating LLMs like they're just anoth…

> But I really think we need to stop treating LLMs like they're just another human

Fully agree. Seeing humans so eager to devalue human-to-human contact by conversing with an LLM as if it were human makes me sad, and a little angry.

It looks like a human, it talks like a human, but it ain't a human.

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