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Post by coffeefirst »

i-blis wrote: post #165

I have always failed to understand the obsessive dream of many engineers to become managers. It seems not to have to do merely with an increase in revenue. Is it really to escape from "getting bogged down in the specifics" and being able to "focus on the higher-level, abstract work", to quote OP's words? I thought naively that engineering always has been about dealing with the specifics and the joy of problem solving…

I actually don’t think the author wants to become a real manager, he wants to play a video game where he sends NPCs around to do stuff.

Real managers deal with coaching, ownership, feelings, politics, communication, consensus building, etc. The people who are good at it like setting other people up to win.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by zer00eyz »

markus_zhang wrote: post #199

My pet peeve with AI is that it just accelerates whatever has already been automated or can be automated easily, but could not touch the bastions of government service, financial service, schools and health services that are way less automated. They keep eating ourselves’ lunch without touching the real problems. For me the pain point has always been with non-IT people/companies. They are way more accustomed with pho…

> My pet peeve with AI is that it just accelerates whatever has already been automated or can be automated easily ....

> I’m just a frustrated old man I guess.

I think this is a great summary of the failure of vision that a lot of tech people are having right now.

> automate anything that already has an endpoint or whatever

Facebook used to have API's, Reddit used to have API's, amazon used to have API's

They are gone.

Enshitification and dark patterns have taken over.

"Hey open claw, cancel service xxx" where XXX is something that is 17 steps and purposely hard to cancel so they keep your money.

What's going to happen when your AI tool can go to a website and strip the ad's off and return you just the text? What happens when it can build a customized news feed that looks less like Facebook and more like HN? Aren't we just gaining back function we lost with the death of RSS?

Consumers are mad about the hype of AI but the moment that it can cut through the bullshit we keep putting in their way it's going to wreck business MODELS, and the choice will be adapt or die. Start asking your "AI" tools to do all the basic, tedious bullshit tasks that are low risk (you have a ton of them) and if it gets 1/4 of them done your going to free up a ton of your own time.

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Post by vdfs »

markstos wrote: post #167

Last night I was debugging a website where some users, some times were getting a message that they were attempting to sign up too many times, even when they only had tried to sign-up once. I tried using LLMs to help debug at different points, but they went in circles on bad ideas, even when I gave them what turned out to be a correct clue. Root cause turned out to be that IPv6 wasn't enabled for Docker networking, bu…

By not trusting OpenClaw on your system, you are missing out on lot of 0-days and 10/10 CVEs!

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by mathisfun123 »

Dansvidania wrote: post #209
mathisfun123 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hold up. This is a funny comment but thinking should be free. Thinking usually happens inside your head.

“Holy tautology Batman.” What is your point? If you’re trying to say that they should have kept their opinion to themselves, why don’t you do the same? Edit: tone down the snark

> What is your point?

Holy Spiderman what is your point? That if someone says something dumb I can never challenge them nor ask them to substantiate/commit?

> tone down the snark

It's amazing to me that the neutral observation "thinking happens in your head" is snarky. Have you ever heard the phrase "tone police"?

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Post by wrs »

spoaceman7777 wrote: post #164

This was incredibly vague and a waste of time. What type of code? What types of tools? What sort of configuration? What messaging app? What projects? It answers none of these questions.

Well, note that the previous post was about how great the Rabbit R1 is…

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Post by falloutx »

gyomu wrote: post #18

> it completely transformed my workflow, whether it’s personal or commercial projects > This has truly freed up my productivity, letting me pursue so many ideas I couldn’t move forward on before If you're writing in a blog post that AI has changed your life and let you build so many amazing projects, you should link to the projects. Somehow 90% of these posts don't actually link to the amazing projects that their aut…

If you look at his github you can see he is in the first week of giving into the vibes. The first week always leads to the person making absurd claims about productivity.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by leetbulb »

mancerayder wrote: post #206
i-blis wrote: post #165

I have always failed to understand the obsessive dream of many engineers to become managers. It seems not to have to do merely with an increase in revenue. Is it really to escape from "getting bogged down in the specifics" and being able to "focus on the higher-level, abstract work", to quote OP's words? I thought naively that engineering always has been about dealing with the specifics and the joy of problem solving…

Don't you get bored with spending many years learning and becoming advanced or an expert in a system paradigm (like different hosting systems), a programming language (i.e. Perl), or a framework (pick your JS framework), only to have it completely obsoleted a few years later? And then in a job interview, when you try to sell yourself on your wisdom as expert on thing X, new to Y, they dismiss you because the 25 year…

Thank you for adding color. This is the exact reason why I want to get in to management. Sadly, I am just not cut out to manage people. Nowadays, my role is more of a hybrid between Principal and EM, which may be awkward at times. If it weren't for excellent PM & PgM, I'd be stretching myself too thin.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by willio58 »

i-blis wrote: post #165

I have always failed to understand the obsessive dream of many engineers to become managers. It seems not to have to do merely with an increase in revenue. Is it really to escape from "getting bogged down in the specifics" and being able to "focus on the higher-level, abstract work", to quote OP's words? I thought naively that engineering always has been about dealing with the specifics and the joy of problem solving…

For me, getting into management was less about feeling bogged down in the specifics, but more about control (directed mostly above). Anyone who’s had a bad manager or bad decisions they need to adhere to might be familiar with the feeling that caused me to dip my toes into management.

Like I’ve been in situations as an IC where poor leadership from above has literally caused less efficient and more painful day-to-day work. I always hoped I could sway those decisions from my position as an IC, but reality rarely aligned with that hope.

I actually love the details, but I just don’t get too deep into them these days as I don’t want to micro-manage.

I do find I have more say in things my team deals with now that I’m a manager.

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Post by kmaitreys »

lordnacho wrote: post #207
i-blis wrote: post #165

I have always failed to understand the obsessive dream of many engineers to become managers. It seems not to have to do merely with an increase in revenue. Is it really to escape from "getting bogged down in the specifics" and being able to "focus on the higher-level, abstract work", to quote OP's words? I thought naively that engineering always has been about dealing with the specifics and the joy of problem solving…

I liken it to being an author. You want to write a book about people's deepest motivations. Formative experiences, relationships, desires. Society, expectations, disappointment. Characters need to meet and talk at certain times. The plot needs to make sense. You bring it to your editor. He finds you forgot to capitalise a proper noun. You also missed an Oxford comma. You used "their" instead of "they're". He sends yo…

Weird analogy. This makes sense if you liken this automatic editor to a LSP or compiler of the language you're writing in.
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