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Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
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He might have, and my experience is that you cannot teach inconsiderate people, they lack social object permanence: as soon as you don't stand in front of them, they become unaware of your existence and thus are also unaware that their music at two in the morning might be annoying to you. Better windows don't help either - but they're great for noise outside. The only thing that helps against horrible neighbors is mo…
"The only thing that helps against horrible neighbors is moving. If you've never learned that lesson, you've never had horrible neighbors." Having lived next to a terrible neighbour for over 20 years, I can confirm a horrible neighbour never changes into a considerate one. And often they're the ones that never sell or move (why would they, they're having a great time..). Almost all the neighbours properties around he…
I stood my ground once against an awful neighbor. The neighborhood was a fishbowl and he already had a bad reputation that he wanted to pretend didn’t exist. My spouse and I put up a fence on the property line and nowhere else, which really embarrassed him. And at one point we figured out he was eavesdropping on us. I found out he had a record and so I started talking with my spouse in the room he eavesdropped on about getting a restraining order and about his record. It took about 3 months but he eventually packed up and left.
Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
#213I hate loud neighbors. But I also am disappointed more apartments aren't built to be sound proof and that even if they are it's nearly impossible to find out if they actually are before moving in.
My good experience that told me this is possible is in 1999 I moved in to the my first apartment with a built in washer and dryer. When the agent showed me the apartment and pointed out the washer and dryer, I said something like "I guess I need to be sure not to use it too late so it won't annoy the neighbors". The agent said, "this building was originally built to be condos. Each outer wall is 6 inches of concrete with 6 inches of space between it and the next wall for the next unit. You can run the washer and dryer anytime you want, your neighbors won't hear it.
I've never been lucky enough to live in another apartment built that way. My current apartment, the neighbors are up stomping around the room and having loud conversations til 5am. I think they call family in Korea and so are up to match the time.
I haven't talked to them about it yet but I wish I just didn't have to and the apartment was designed better.
Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
#214I hate loud neighbors. But I also am disappointed more apartments aren't built to be sound proof and that even if they are it's nearly impossible to find out if they actually are before moving in. My good experience that told me this is possible is in 1999 I moved in to the my first apartment with a built in washer and dryer. When the agent showed me the apartment and pointed out the washer and dryer, I said somethin…
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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
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"The only thing that helps against horrible neighbors is moving. If you've never learned that lesson, you've never had horrible neighbors." Having lived next to a terrible neighbour for over 20 years, I can confirm a horrible neighbour never changes into a considerate one. And often they're the ones that never sell or move (why would they, they're having a great time..). Almost all the neighbours properties around he…
There's a guy in my neighborhood driving a 20yo BMW with a modified exhaust. He also has a motorcycle. If I tried to move to a more expensive area, I would have a guy driving a 5yo BMW with a modified exhaust - the building two blocks away is literally that - 40% more expensive, asshole in an M3 flooring it every time he drives out. A friend of mine had a prolonged conflict with a neighbour who lived off of his dad's…
What part of California or Washington are you in?
Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
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> Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed. They’re more pleasant to coexist with because they let their smoke drift into my home instead of their own? What? They’re just externalizing the negatives of their own vice.
You haven't mentioned that they: a) are aware that their smoke isn't dispersed enough by the breeze / open space to be unnoticeable. b) know there is someone close enough who isn't like them and other smokers, and is really bothered by the smoke. They do, however, go smoke on their balconies since they were made aware smoking inside is bad for their roommates/family. So, many of them are more likely than not reasonab…
No, in my experience they smoke on the balcony because it is banned inside and will get them evicted.
Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
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This post and your comment has me thinking about STFU, posted here a couple weeks ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46649142 Is it feasible to capture and directionally pipe audio back to a rude neighbor? Seems like it could be effective.
Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/316/
I lived in an apartment with extremely thin floors. One night I needed to move the bed 5 inches away from the wall at 3am. In my room it made almost no noise and took 1 second. But, the next morning the woman below came up and complained.
I told her I heard her masturbating often and would just put my headphones on and check in 20 minutes. She said she didn't do that. I said "well, maybe you're listening to porn. All I know is I hear something".
She moved out the next day.
Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down
#218Not saying it's right for everyone, but I moved off-grid where my nearest neighbor is 5km away. 20 years in an apartment in the city was enough for me, as I grew older I realized there are too many things outside of my control if I want silence and peace of mind. Sound pollution is a very real baseline stressor.
I'm sure it depends on demographic/country etc, but I've lived in Apartments where everyone was considerate, no loud neighbours, no smokers. Everyone just peacefully co-existed. (I've also experienced the opposite, and unfortunately, it is more common.)
And I've lived in apartments designed to be much more sound proof, then the neighbors could do whatever they wanted and didn't have tip-toe around each other.
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My romantic views of wood smoke hit reality when I first camped in Canada's Banff-Jasper national parks, where you could buy unlimited firewood for the night for $5. Everyone bought it, it seemed. Trying to breathe downwind of a campground was a rude wakeup call. It should definitely be restricted in denser residential areas. I can't imagine some of the towns in Germany or Poland where residents depend on wood fires…
People should just make better fires. A good fire doesn't release much, if any smoke. It burns it up instead. A good woodstove is worth the money.
The stink remains even for efficient fires. Smoke is often correlated of course.
I'm in Christchurch, New Zealand which gets winter smog,. The city council enforces rules and woodburners need to meet strict emission standards. They regularly tighten the rules so that if you want a woodburner you need to replace it every 15 years or so.
But they do still smell.
The rules have radically improved the air quality here and we now get much less smog than when I was a kid.
Outright banning open fires and coal years ago made a big difference too.
I'm not sure what happens if you don't follow the rules. A neighbour can make a complaint and there will get taken seriously and I believe they have a van sometimes checking too. Although I've personally never heard of anyone actually getting caught.
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