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Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe those folks buying Mac Minis to host at home weren't so silly after all. The exposed ones are almost all hosted on VPSs which, by design, have publicly-routable IP addresses. But anyway I think connecting to a Clawdbot instance requires pairing unless you're coming from localhost: https://docs.molt.bot/start/pairing
The silly part is buying a $600 Mac mini when any $100 NUC or $50 raspberry pi or any cheap mini PC off of eBay will do the job exactly the same.
Our SFF HP came out at 150€ with flash storage and 16GB of RAM. I see used M1s for 200-250€ where we live. The only drawback of the M1 is you’d be stuck buying a NAS/DAS for the storage part, whereas the HP has 3 internal SATA ports. Neither option is silly, they have different pros/cons. Managing Linux quirks has gotten frustrating, for example.
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
My old local brewery had a Leggo My Ego[1] beer they also were served a cease and desist by Kellogg over... they still make it, it's just now called the Unlawful Waffle[2] which is a bit funnier if you happen to know the lore/reason. 1. https://untappd.com/b/arizona-wilderness-brewing-co-leggo-my... 2. https://untappd.com/b/arizona-wilderness-brewing-co-unlawful...
Funny story but the taste scores don’t look to great. Do you like it?
It’s one of those types you have to be the person that likes that style. It’s my friends favorite rotator but I think it’s a decent try-it-once beer, that is only around for a little while at a time.
The brewery itself though is one of my favorites to this day with, in my opinion, the best food I've ever encountered at something that identifies itself first as a "brewery." I don't visit the area without making a stop there.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
> need an always-on Mac Not really, you can emulate macOS on any Linux/x86-64. But it is actually a good point to get a Mac Mini instead of a NUC. The Mac Mini is going to deliver better performance per Watt.
> Not really, you can emulate macOS on any Linux/x86-64. Intel is going to stop being supported with the current OS version (Tahoe, 2025). OS are supported for about 3 years. I'm curious what will happen after. If they'll break it or if they'll allow the services to keep running on unsupported hardware. Got a couple years left
I expect someone will eventually get around to reverse engineering the various M series specific instructions for qemu. Does imessage make use of hardware attestation to register with the remote endpoint?
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could they have gotten around this by actually serving Eggo waffles? Would that have then fallen under nominative fair use?
I doubt it, no. I couldn’t go buy Taco Bell sauce at the store, serve it at my restaurant, and call my restaurant Taco Bell. They could probably mention it on their menu.
I'm guessing (NAL) that would actually make it worse. Trademark violation revolves around brand confusion. If you actually serve their product you are making that _much_ more likely (in my uninformed opinion anyway).
Otherwise it's a standalone argument about a stupid pun applied to food in general.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's based on recognizable elements because it's clearly parodying them; they are not copying the brand. They are not relying on people thinking there's an endorsement or association with Kellogg. They're relying on a chuckle. This stuff is all obvious to anyone with enough reasoning ability to pass the LSAT (or anyone who can pass middle school), so obviously any lawyer who claims otherwise is a disingenuous liar. L…
Parody defense typically relies on there being an underlying comment about the brand or product. Commercial use with no clear speech purpose will not be looked on favorably by a court. Copying someone’s brand isn’t a parody by the court’s Rogers test which will be applied in this case to determine if it is a legal parody. The Rogers test: > First, the Court must determine whether the work at issue is “expressive” — t…
The latest I can find on Bad Spaniels is that the courts concluded they did not infringe the trademark exactly because it was an obvious parody, but that it tarnished the brand because of the association with dog feces[0]. Notably, it seems that brand confusion is still central to the infringement question, and SCOTUS ruled that parody plays into that.
> Reaching the Supreme Court, the case took another turn in 2023 when the Court vacated the Ninth Circuit’s decision, unanimously ruling that the Rogers test does not apply in cases when a trademark is used as a source identifier, rather than as a purely artistic work. As a result, the Supreme Court remanded the case for the district court to reconsider Jack Daniel’s counterclaims under traditional trademark principles.
In the food truck case, clearly they are using it as their own brand identifier (so it's analogous to Bad Spaniels), and clearly it is a parody, so clearly it is not trademark infringement as with BS. Unlike the BS case, they're also not tarnishing the Eggo brand, but just making a playful pun, so that outcome doesn't seem likely here.
[0] https://www.internetandtechnologylaw.com/bad-spaniels-iii-pa...
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has any court ever ruled that a trademark was abandoned, merely on the grounds that its owners didn't try to prosecute a borderline infringement case?
This is a dilution not abandonment issue. Courts will look at the level of systematic tolerance. If you have a history of vigorous enforcement, it will be harder to argue in the future that a borderline dilution should be allowed. If you allow borderline dilution, the court is going to consider what you have let other people get away with in the past. It’s a bit of a catch 22
I would still be interested in a real case where a trademark owner ignored a borderline case and this later resulted in an adverse ruling when a more concrete interest was at stake.
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#218This project terrifies me. On the one hand it really is very cool, and a lot of people are reporting great results using it. It helped someone negotiate with car dealers to buy a car! https://aaronstuyvenberg.com/posts/clawd-bought-a-car But it's an absolute perfect storm for prompt injection and lethal trifecta attacks: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/ People are hooking this thing up to Te…
We might not be far from the first prompt worm