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Re: Prism

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Post by swyx »

vitalnodo wrote: post #2

Previously, this existed as crixet.com [0]. At some point it used WASM for client-side compilation, and later transitioned to server-side rendering [1][2]. It now appears that there will be no option to disable AI [3]. I hope the core features remain available and won’t be artificially restricted. Compared to Overleaf, there were fewer service limitations: it was possible to compile more complex documents, share proj…

we did a podcast with the Crixet founder and Kevin Weil of OAI on the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cBTVr8nxU&pp=2Aa0Bg%3D%3D

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Post by alphazard »

plastic041 wrote: post #207

The video shows a user asking Prism to find articles to cite and to put them in a bib file. But what's the point of citing papers that aren't referenced in the paper you're actually writing? Can you do that? Edit: You can add papers that are not cited, to bibliography. Video is about bibliography and I was thinking about cited works.

I once took a philosophy class where an essay assignment had a minimum citation count.

Obviously ridiculous, since a philosophical argument should follow a chain of reasoning starting at stated axioms. Citing a paper to defend your position is just an appeal to authority (a fallacy that they teach you about in the same class).

The citation requirement allowed the class to fulfill a curricular requirement that students needed to graduate, and therefore made the class more popular.

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Post by SoKamil »

epolanski wrote: post #197

Not gonna lie, I cringed when it asked to insert citations. Like, what's the point? You cite stuff because you literally talk about it in the paper. The expectation is that you read that and that it has influenced your work. As someone who's been a researcher in the past, with 3 papers published in high impact journals (in chemistry), I'm beyond appalled. Let me explain how scientific publishing works to people out o…

It’s like not only the technology is to blame, but the culture and incentives of modern world.

The urge to cheat in order to get a job, promotion, approval. The urge to do stuff you are not even interested in, to look good in the resume. And to some extent I feel sorry for these people. At the end of the day you have to pay your bills.

Re: Prism

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Post by swyx »

beklein wrote: post #122

The Latent Space podcast just released a relevant episode today where they interviewed Kevin Weil and Victor Powell from, now, OpenAI, with some demos, background and context, and a Q&A. The YouTube link is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cBTVr8nxU

oh i was here to post it haha - thank you for doing that job for me so I'm not a total shill. I really enjoyed meeting them and was impressed by the sheer ambition of the AI for Science effort at OAI - in some sense I'm making a 10000x smaller scale bet than OAI on AI for Science "taking off" this year with the upcoming dedicated Latent Space Science pod.

generally think that there's a lot of fertile ground for smart generalist engineers to make a ton of progress here this year + it will probably be extremely financially + personally rewarding, so I broadly want to create a dedicated pod to highlight opportunities available for people who don't traditionally think of themselves as "in science" to cross over into the "ai for hard STEM" because it turns out that 1) they need you 2) you can fill in what you don't know 3) it will be impactful/challenging/rewarding 4) we've exhausted common knowledge frontiers and benchmarks anyway so the only* people left working on civilization-impacting/change-history-forever hard problems are basically at this frontier

*conscious exaggeration sorry

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Post by BizarroLand »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mind_Forever_Voyaging

In 2031, the United States of North America (USNA) faces severe economic decline, widespread youth suicide through addictive neural-stimulation devices known as Joybooths, and the threat of a new nuclear arms race involving miniature weapons, which risks transforming the country into a police state. Dr. Abraham Perelman has designed PRISM, the world's first sentient computer,[2] which has spent eleven real-world years (equivalent to twenty years subjectively) living in a highly realistic simulation as an ordinary human named Perry Simm, unaware of its artificial nature.

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Post by nemomarx »

amitav1 wrote: post #169
doctorpangloss wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems bad for OpenAI to make this about latex documents, which will be now associated, visually, with AI slop. The opposite of what anyone wants really. Nobody wants you to know they used a chatbot!

Am I missing something? LaTeX is associated with slop now?

If a common AI tool produces latex documents, the association will be created yeah. Right now latex would be a high indicator of manual effort, right?

Re: Prism

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Post by epolanski »

SoKamil wrote: post #213
epolanski wrote: post #197

Not gonna lie, I cringed when it asked to insert citations. Like, what's the point? You cite stuff because you literally talk about it in the paper. The expectation is that you read that and that it has influenced your work. As someone who's been a researcher in the past, with 3 papers published in high impact journals (in chemistry), I'm beyond appalled. Let me explain how scientific publishing works to people out o…

It’s like not only the technology is to blame, but the culture and incentives of modern world. The urge to cheat in order to get a job, promotion, approval. The urge to do stuff you are not even interested in, to look good in the resume. And to some extent I feel sorry for these people. At the end of the day you have to pay your bills.

This isn't about paying your bills, but having a chance of becoming a full time researcher or professor in academia which is obviously the ideal career path for someone interested in science.

All those people can go work for private companies, but few as scientists rather than technicians or QAs.

Re: Prism

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Post by spacebuffer »

efficax wrote: post #44
crazygringo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious how it compares to Overleaf in terms of features? Putting aside the AI aspect entirely, I'm simply curious if this is a viable Overleaf competitor -- especially since it's free. I do self-host Overleaf which is annoying but ultimately doable if you don't want to pay the $21/mo (!). I do have to wonder for how long it will be free or even supported, though. On the one hand, remote LaTeX compiling gets expe…

Overleaf is a little curious to me. What's the point? Just install LaTeX. Claude is very good at manipulating LaTeX documents and I've found it effective at fixing up layouts for me.

I'd use git in this case, I am sure there are other reasons to use overleaf otherwise it wouldn't exist but this seems like a solved issue with git.

Re: Prism

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Post by maest »

Burried halfway through the article.

> Prism is a free workspace for scientific writing and collaboration

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