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Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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I wonder if the era of dynamic programming languages is over. Python/JS/Ruby/etc. were good tradeoffs when developer time mattered. But now that most code is written by LLMs, it's as "hard" for the LLM to write Python as it is to write Rust/Go (assuming enough training data on the language ofc; LLMs still can't write Gleam/Janet/CommonLisp/etc.). Esp. with Go's quick compile time, I can see myself using it more and m…

I’ve moved to rust for some select projects and it’s actually been a bit easier… I converted an electron app to rust/tauri… perf improvement was massive and development was quicker. I’m rethinking the stacks I should be focused on.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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Backend has always been easier than frontend. AI has made backend absolutely trivial, the code only has to work on one type of machine in one environment. If you think it's rare or will remain rare you're just not being exposed to it, because it's on the backend.

Might be a surprise to you, but some backends are more than just a Nextjs endpoint that calls a database.

Honestly, I am also at a faang working on a tier 0 distributed system in infra and the amount of AI generated code that is shipped on this service is probably like 40%+ at this point.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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I wonder if the era of dynamic programming languages is over. Python/JS/Ruby/etc. were good tradeoffs when developer time mattered. But now that most code is written by LLMs, it's as "hard" for the LLM to write Python as it is to write Rust/Go (assuming enough training data on the language ofc; LLMs still can't write Gleam/Janet/CommonLisp/etc.). Esp. with Go's quick compile time, I can see myself using it more and m…

Might as well choose a language with a much better type system than go, given how beneficial quick feedback loops are to LLM code generation.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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I have certainly become Go-curious thanks to coding agents - I have a medium sized side-project in progress using Go at the moment and it's been surprisingly smooth sailing considering I hardly know the language. The Go standard library is a particularly good fit for building network services and web proxies, which fits this project perfectly.

It's funny seeing you say that, because I've had an entire arc of despising the design of, and peremptorily refusing to use, Go, to really enjoying it, thanks to AI coding agents being able to take care of the boilerplate for me. It turns out that verbosity isn't really a problem when LLMs are the one writing the code based on more high level markdown specs (describing logic, architecture, algorithms, concurrency, et…

God you people are so lazy.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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If I may ask, does the code produced by LLM follow best practices or patterns? What mental model do you use to understand or comprehend your codebase? Please know that I am asking as I am curious and do not intend to be disrespectful.

I get your sentiment but a lot of people on this forum forget that a lot of us are just working for the paycheck - I don't owe my company anything. Do I know the code base like the back of my hand? Nope. Can I confidently talk to how certain functions work? Not a chance. Can I deploy what the business wants? Yep. Can I throw error logs into LLMs and work out the cause of issues? Mostly. I get some of you may want to…

Do you work as a consultant then? I've been with the same employer for a long time, so if my team creates a mess, I get to look at it daily.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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post #211

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Could you please answer the email please? Thanks.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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post #14

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I have certainly become Go-curious thanks to coding agents - I have a medium sized side-project in progress using Go at the moment and it's been surprisingly smooth sailing considering I hardly know the language. The Go standard library is a particularly good fit for building network services and web proxies, which fits this project perfectly.

It's funny seeing you say that, because I've had an entire arc of despising the design of, and peremptorily refusing to use, Go, to really enjoying it, thanks to AI coding agents being able to take care of the boilerplate for me. It turns out that verbosity isn't really a problem when LLMs are the one writing the code based on more high level markdown specs (describing logic, architecture, algorithms, concurrency, et…

Just completed my first, small go program. It is just a cli tool to use with code quality tool for coding agent skill. The toolchain built into go left a good first impression. Recursion and refinement of guard rails on coding agents has been high on my priorities to deliver better quality code faster.

Re: ChatGPT Containers can now run bash, pip/npm install packages and download files

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post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Could you please answer the email please? Thanks.

We don't answer aggressive or abusive emails. If you genuinely want an answer, it's easy enough to ask your question respectfully.
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