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UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs

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Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs

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Hence why Mullvad is being used as the exit point. You have full e2ee between yourself and Mullvad but crucially Mullvad don't know who your IP. Five eyes are already doing SIGINT on behalf of both the US and the UK government before my connection even reaches Obscura so I lose nothing but potentially gain privacy. How is it you think a single company (Mullvad) having access to my IP and what I am browsing is less se…

I see you are carefully skipping around the point .... Where is Obscura's independent audit ? When has Obscura been tested to the same extent that Mullvad was during its court batttle ? Answer it wasn't. Therefore Mulvad Multi-Hop mode. Or Mullvad + Tor, if you insist. Is the safer choice. And the US juristiction of Obscura is not something you can brush under the carpet like it somehow doesn't matter. With Obscura y…

It's open source which means I can trust having the app installed if I build from source (or I can just use Wireguard directly). I then know I'm directly connected to a Mullvad Wireguard node by checking the public key here: https://mullvad.net/en/servers

Other than Wireguard protocol being broken there is no way for Obscura to snoop presuming I check the public key. I'm not saying I trust Obscura, I'm saying with their model I don't need to trust them which is vastly superior. Nor do I need to trust Mullvad.

You keep hand waving around that Obscura are somehow untrustworthy but you have steadfastly refused to address the fact that their model does not require trust. If you trust Mullvad (which you are claiming to) please show an attack that would work to breach this model. You can't.

You would benefit from reading their FAQs and this blog post: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/

https://github.com/Sovereign-Engineering/obscuravpn-client

Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs

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It appears that you have not yet learned the lesson that perfect is the enemy of good. Just because a system doesn't meet your high expectations, doesn't mean it doesn't have value. I'm also having trouble squaring your keen interest in the economic woes of inflation combined with your desire to have a stock market crash. Perhaps you are unaware of your bias given your portfolio, wishing to enact misery upon millions…

> It appears that you have not yet learned the lesson that perfect is the enemy of good. Just because a system doesn't meet your high expectations, doesn't mean it doesn't have value. That isn't what you are proposing. What you are proposing is something which has no value. I've told you why it is pointless. Saying it "has value" repeatedly doesn't change the fact that it is pointless. > I'm also having trouble squar…

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Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs

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I meant VPN providers offer VPS as a substitute. I think they would include AWS and the pushback would be ineffective. Many AWS users could be immediately age-verified by existing payment card info.

By VPS, I mean a generic compute instance that can run whatever you want. Like a Linux instance. I'm not sure what you mean by "VPN providers offer VPS as a substitute" in that context. Paying by card isn't enough to verify age. They'd have to specifically verify via passport or other ID.

> Paying by card isn't enough to verify age.

It is in UK.

Ofcom, the media regulator, has set out a number of ways websites can verify the age of users, external, including through credit card checks ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1k81lj8nvpo

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