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California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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strange because this is one of the warmest winters in decades. snow levels are far below normal, i saw 8% of normal in truckee. full reservoirs now are great but keeping them filled depends on a long snow melt going into june. i don’t think this is going to be a good year for that

It gets lost when everything is summarized as wet

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Colorado is having a record low snow season. It's been tough for skiing.

Damn, is this the first time ever the east coast is doing better than Colorado? We’ve had record snowfalls all over Quebec, I spent all day last Friday skiing in a foot of fresh powder. Unheard of on the ice coast*. *not literally. But still, crazy amount of snow this year so far

Neighboring ski areas in Maine have just so so snow. NOAA Northeast snowpack map. One of my favorites.

https://www.weather.gov/images/nerfc/ops/nohrsc_full_sd.png

I usually use this one but the previous includes Quebec.

https://www.weather.gov/images/nerfc/ops/NOHRSC_SD_highcontr...

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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This might be a stupid question, but if "drought" means "abnormally dry" yet an area is in "drought" 90% of the time, does that not just mean the definition of drought is wrong? It would be more accurate to say that dry periods in california are just "normal weather" and the occasional wet periods are the abnormal weather. I enjoy the rare periods when it's sunny in the UK, but I wouldn't refer to a typical cloudy pe…

at least looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_in_California I'd agree with that assessment.

Would help if the water heavy industries moved to areas with actual water to spare but that ain't gonna happen when the cost of water management is mostly dumped on tax payers and not companies using it

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Makes for a catchy headline, but you only have to go back to Jan 9, 2024* to find a similarly 'drought free' California: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx (*Technically slivers of the state in the far north/south were 'abnormally dry' in 2024, a small difference from 2026)

my reaction is pretty much "well, it's middle of winter"

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Isn't this the same state where the rich people water their plush lawns even in the peak of summer during drought? And where 90% of the water for its huge capital city-district (Los Angeles) is not even sourced locally (say, by desalination of seawater, as it is a coastal city), but it's instead piped from hundreds of miles away, while banning the villages at the source locations from using the local rivers/lakes as…

LA is not the capital. Sacramento in the north, and inland, is.

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This might be a stupid question, but if "drought" means "abnormally dry" yet an area is in "drought" 90% of the time, does that not just mean the definition of drought is wrong? It would be more accurate to say that dry periods in california are just "normal weather" and the occasional wet periods are the abnormal weather. I enjoy the rare periods when it's sunny in the UK, but I wouldn't refer to a typical cloudy pe…

Drought doesn't mean "abnormally dry" though, it means lack of rain resulting in water shortage. And California has had a lot of water shortages.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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This might be a stupid question, but if "drought" means "abnormally dry" yet an area is in "drought" 90% of the time, does that not just mean the definition of drought is wrong? It would be more accurate to say that dry periods in california are just "normal weather" and the occasional wet periods are the abnormal weather. I enjoy the rare periods when it's sunny in the UK, but I wouldn't refer to a typical cloudy pe…

Drought doesn't mean "abnormally dry" though, it means lack of rain resulting in water shortage. And California has had a lot of water shortages.

I think what he is getting at is : deserts are already dry, what makes a drought in the desert?

It isn't just, a lot of people moved to the desert, so now there is a drought because there isn't enough water.

I don't have reference, but I think there is some definition around change from average.

Drought it something like X months with Y% less precipitation than last 5 year average. or some such calculation.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is basically doomer nonsense. Of course we can and should celebrate the lack of drought, even if there is some mathematically more optimal way for the precipitation to be falling.

This definitely isn't doomer nonsense. Rain is great - we'll take what we can get here in CA, but the snowpack is far more important.

Saying that we should not celebrate the end of drought is definitely doomer nonsense, no matter what the snowpack is doing.

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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This might be a stupid question, but if "drought" means "abnormally dry" yet an area is in "drought" 90% of the time, does that not just mean the definition of drought is wrong? It would be more accurate to say that dry periods in california are just "normal weather" and the occasional wet periods are the abnormal weather. I enjoy the rare periods when it's sunny in the UK, but I wouldn't refer to a typical cloudy pe…

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Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Isn't this the same state where the rich people water their plush lawns even in the peak of summer during drought? And where 90% of the water for its huge capital city-district (Los Angeles) is not even sourced locally (say, by desalination of seawater, as it is a coastal city), but it's instead piped from hundreds of miles away, while banning the villages at the source locations from using the local rivers/lakes as…

LA is not the capital. Sacramento in the north, and inland, is.

Ah, my bad, you are right. LA is not the capital of California. Thanks for the correction, appreciate it!

But I guess the relevance of my point still stands.

Rich regions need to do better at water management. They cannot simply keep crying wolf (whining about droughtsand water scarcity), when their bad water-infrastructure planning and bad practices (e.g., watering big laws during severe droughts) are exacerbating the problems.

From what I can gather online, Florida seems to have double the desalinatiom plants than California. So definitely, California can do a lot better at civic infrastructure, especially for water management.

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