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Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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> symlink CLAUDE.md -> AGENTS.md and run `codex` instead of `claude`. This is simple and beautiful. Thank you for sharing it :)

indeed! is there a way to do this on windows?

mklink: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administrat...

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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I mean... I don't like it either but this is pretty standard stuff and it's obvious why they're doing it. Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and Grok are all more or less on par with each other, or a couple months behind at most. Chinese open models are also not far behind. There's nothing inherent to these products to make them "sticky". If your tooling is designed for it, you can trivially switch models at any time. Mid-conv…

> The best thing for consumers would be if all these model providers strictly provided usage-based API pricing Using openrouter myself I find the costs of APIs to be extremely low and affordable? I don't send the whole codebase to every question, I just ask about what I need, and everything is actually ridiculously cheap? $20 lasts about 3 months.

I tried to plug CC on my OpenRouter account, and just asking it what my project was doing (a directory containing three .sh of around 100 LOC each), I saw like 20 API requests to OpenRouter accounting for almost $1 in total.

Meanwhile copy/pasting those shells in OpenRouter's Chat and asking the same question resulted in a single API request costing a tenth of a cent.

I could probably try tuning everything to keep costs down, but idk if it's worth the efforts.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Have any of these sorts of proclamations ever actually come true? I recall when Reddit effectively cut off all the clients from their API, there were similar loud proclamations that they had ruined their business and everyone would defect. I remember something similar with Twitter. These businesses both have their problems, but blocking third-party apps doesn’t seem to be one of them. I think Anthropic took a look at…

Anthropic thinking they're Reddit ~2023 feels pretty arrogant. And if they've made a business decision to do this, rolling it out without announcement is even worse. Did they think no one would notice?

Why would they need to make an announcement? Their subscription plan is for their products only. Other companies were hacking it to use it. It's not surprising they would shut it down.

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People underestimate enterprise market. Usually you can see it when someone nags about “call us” pricing that is targeted at enterprise. People that nag about it are most likely not the customers someone wants to cater to.

I'm sure everyone "wants to" land a many million dollar deal with a big company that has mild demands, but that doesn't mean those naggers are bad customers. Bad customers have much more annoying and unreasonable demands than a pricing sheet.

I don’t think anyone lands contracts with “mild demands”.

Most of the time you want to cut off ‘non customers’ as soon as possible and don’t leave ‘big fish’ without having direct contact person who can explain stuff. People just clicking around on their own will make assumptions that need to be addressed in a way no one wastes time.

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There is so much low-hanging fruit in the tooling side right now. There's no way Anthropic alone can stay ahead of it all -- we need lots of different teams trying different things. I myself have been building a special-purpose vibe-coding environment and it's just astounding how easy it is to get great results by trying totally random ideas that are just trivial to implement. Lots of companies are hoping to win here…

Yep. And in a way this has always been the story. It's why there's just so few companies making $$ in the pure devtooling space. I have no idea what JetBrain's financials are like, but I doubt they're raking in huge $$ despite having very good tools & unfortunately their attempts to keep abreast of the AI wave have been middling. Basically, I need Claude Code with a proper review phase built in. I need it to slow-the…

> I have no idea what JetBrain's financials are like

In 2024, ~725 M$ total revenue, ~119 M$ net profit.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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As a user of Claude Code via API (the expensive way), Anthrophic's "huge mistake" is capping monthly spend (billed in advance and pay as you go some $500 - $1500 at a time, by credit card) at just $5,000 a month. It's a supposedly professional tool with a value proposition that requires being in your work flow. Are you going to keep using a power drill on your construction site that bricks itself the last week or two…

This sounds like a stop loss? Are they losing money per token even through the api?

That leads to the obvious question; is the API next on the chopping block? Or would they just increase the API pricing to a point where they are A) making profit off it and B) nobody would use the API just for a different client?

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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They did not. Anthropic is protecting its huge asset: the Claude Code value chain, which has proven itself to be a winner among devs (me included, after trying everything under the sun in 2025). If anything, Anthropic's mistake is that they are incapable of monetizing their great models in the chat market, where ChatGPT reigns: ie. Anthropic did not invest in image generation, Google did and Gemini has a shot at the…

> Also Opencode makes it all easily swappable It's all easily swappable without OpenCode. Just symlink CLAUDE.md -> AGENTS.md and run `codex` instead of `claude`. > they are working hard on making it impossible for other models to support their every increasing agent feature set (skills, teleport and remote sessions, LSP, Chrome integration, etc). Every feature you listed has an open-source MCP server implementation,…

You don't even need to symlink. Just put @AGENTS.md in your CLAUDE.md

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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This sounds like a stop loss? Are they losing money per token even through the api?

That leads to the obvious question; is the API next on the chopping block? Or would they just increase the API pricing to a point where they are A) making profit off it and B) nobody would use the API just for a different client?

I'm pretty sure everyone is pricing their APIs to break-even, maybe profit if people use caching properly (like GPT-5 can do if you mark the prompts properly)

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I'll be honest; I'm pretty sure this "mistake" will be completely forgotten by the next month. Their enforcing that their subscription only works with their product should not really come as a surprise to anyone, and the alt-agent users are a small enough minority that they'll get over it.

I’m starting to think you’re right but only because software engineers don’t seem to actually value or care about open source anymore. Apparently we have collectively forgotten how bad it can be to let your tools own you instead of the other way around. Maybe another symptom of Silicon Valley hustle culture — nobody cares about the long term consequences if you can make a quick buck.

Quality, UX, DX first, second openness.

If all is equal, I pick the open option. In this case it's not equal, Claude Code + Opus 4.5 is better than Opencode + Opus 4.5.

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