Vista was bad enough.
Vista was not bad, it's just that you tried running it on a 128MB computer from 2002. Vista was fantastic on so many levels but people were just not ready for it. People mocked Vista's permission prompts, something that every OS has now. That alone should tell you how misplaced your hate is.
Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
211–220 of 390 posts
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#212Vista was bad enough.
Vista was not bad, it's just that you tried running it on a 128MB computer from 2002. Vista was fantastic on so many levels but people were just not ready for it. People mocked Vista's permission prompts, something that every OS has now. That alone should tell you how misplaced your hate is.
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!
The reason for this is that it's hard to hire native UI developers, but easy to hire web devs. Something like 90% of all new devs today learn only cloud-native backend dev or web frontend dev. The only exceptions tends to be mobile and game developers. Collectively cloud+web, mobile, and games account for like 98% of all new devs it seems. Nobody learns anything else. The web is going to become the desktop UI in the…
Yeah, it's a wonder they were able to do it so many years (ftom win 1.0 to Win 8).
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#214For a fair test against Windows 10 and below, you'll have at least to do this: "Temporarily turn off your Memory Integrity and VMP" -- https://support.microsoft.com/en-US
Also, it's important to have all bits and pieces of Hyper-V/Windows Virtual Platform off (which the Menory Integrity relies on), thus cutting off WSL functionality.
We don't need flawed tests to tell us Windows 11 sucks -- yesterday my explorer bar didn't respond to clicks nor Windows key. In the past killing explorer.exe and restarting it, or logging off and back on, worked. Yesterday I had to reboot the machine to fix it.
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#215Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!
The reason for this is that it's hard to hire native UI developers, but easy to hire web devs. Something like 90% of all new devs today learn only cloud-native backend dev or web frontend dev. The only exceptions tends to be mobile and game developers. Collectively cloud+web, mobile, and games account for like 98% of all new devs it seems. Nobody learns anything else. The web is going to become the desktop UI in the…
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#217Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been pretty much exclusively Linux-based for over a decade now, but I used every version of Windows from 3.11 to Windows 7, so I still have some muscle memory from the good ol' days. Recently I was helping a relative do something on their Windows 11 machine and I asked them to press Windows key + R, type calc, press Enter. And I was astonished at the result. Literally: Mouth agape, frozen in astonishment for abo…
Bit of a clickbaity way of phrasing it, but I'm also curious what the result was? From googling it I don't see any stories about recent changes to the calculator app, other than a few features like graphing.
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I could get regular security updates for Windows 2000 I might still be using it- peak Windows
I wonder if it's ancient enough that the exploits floating online are too modern for it... Hah, I guess the Internet really is like a sewer, you have to have good protective equipment to wade in it...
Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
macOS has Cocoa since 2000, which is still useable, and SwiftUI since a few years. No comparison to the mess of UI toolkits on Windows.
And what about Carbon? Gone. 32-bit apps? Gone. PowerPC stuff? Anything more than a few years old? Forget it. You can't even run versions of iPhoto or iTunes after they deliberately broke them and replaced them with objectively shittier equivalents. Their own apps! Windows can still run programs from the 90s unmodified. There are VB6 apps from 1998 talking to Access databases still running small businesses today. Can…
From my own experience things tend to keep working on Linux if you package your own userland libraries instead of depending on the ever changing system libraries. More or less how you would do it on Windows.
Except Windows isn't perfect either, I had to deal with countless programs that required an ancient version of the c runtime, some weird database libraries that weren't installed by default and countless other Microsoft dependencies that somehow weren't part of the ever growing bloat.