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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

mancerayder wrote: post #198
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google searches don't produce good results these days. The enshittification has become too extreme. Google openly admits as much (and further intensifies the enshittification) by placing a huge AI summary above those results. I haven't asked Google a question it has failed to provide a more than adequate answer to in ... months? years? And on all my devices, I run google search with &udm=14, so I am not talking abo…

Maybe because you have the personalization disabled. My complaint isn't the SEO stuff; that hits me when I search on a tech item I want to learn (I get slammed with crappy vendor blogs), or food recipes (long story about a Sicilian Grandma before the recipe at the end). My complaint with Google is it fights me on keywords, and I have to constantly add quotes, add minuses, and it seems to silently override it. It's ea…

So why have personalization enabled?

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Post by willturman »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #177
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #96

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Better to stop playing the game. --WOPR

“The game” is an emergent property of the human species at scale Human society cannot exist at this scale without this nested social complexity structure given the biological constraints So something has to give

Revenue generation via advertising is an emergent property of humanity?

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Post by dleslie »

nostrademons wrote: post #160
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

Meta appears to believe this, and so is pushing chatbot integration into private chats on Messenger and WhatsApp; presumably that will be the vector by which they push product advertisements.

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Post by tomjuggler »

tomjuggler wrote: post #42
ndarray wrote: post #27

Is this being on top of HN part of the writer's new non-google marketing strategy?

Please not that again, my server was down for 2 days last time! (I did join CloudFlare CDN after that)

Cloudflare seems to be sorting it out (mostly).

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Post by JKCalhoun »

xthe wrote: post #51

Google isn’t dead, but it’s no longer the single answer. Even Mark Zuckerberg recently acknowledged how fast Google is improving, which explains why Meta is pushing AI harder. Still, competing shouldn’t mean replacing what already works.

> Even Mark Zuckerberg recently acknowledged how fast Google is improving

AI. I thought he was referring to how fast Google is improving their AI.

Search though?

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Post by lovich »

senthil_rajasek wrote: post #109
tomjuggler wrote: post #99

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I forgot YouTube has ads, thanks. I do occasionally post (free) on Reddit, it's not that big here though

By "here" I think you mean SA. Reddit is big in the U.S.

Reddits been building up its user base in India the past few years.[1]

I’m permabanned on Reddit so I only consume via the default not logged in feed and I run into some comments in what I assume is Hindi(might be marathi or one of the multiple other languages on the continent) or posts from subreddits explicitly about some aspect of india

[1] https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/catalyst/inside-reddits...

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Post by bsimpson »

nostrademons wrote: post #160
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

It's interesting to see how much of a behemoth Discord has become. Seems like there's a Discord for everything - from open source projects to hobbies and games to individual groups of friends/family.

It's occupying the segment that subreddits historically have. However, it's perhaps-intentionally search-opaque. You can't Google to find a message/link/download that's gated by Discord. And it also gives a sense of community, where someone who had more attention and time on a computer than a sense of what to do with those things can go have casual conversation with… someone.

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Post by timeon »

spoaceman7777 wrote: post #181
nostrademons wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

None of the numbers I've seen on web usage, platform usage, etc. indicate people are significantly pulling away from online lives. Though, there has been a slight dip in daily social media browsing time in the last couple of years (of course, it also follows the end of the pandemic, and it hasn't ceded back to where it was prior). That does sound like a rather charmed life though. Could also be a sign that people are…

Are bots included in those numbers?
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