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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by cromka »

b112 wrote: post #160
cromka wrote: post #140

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Do you also hate airplane regulations for their dumbest reasoning? You know, when they try to avoid one in a million situation saving mere 200 people?

While I have no issue with pulling up to the pump, I think many would prefer to pull up driver on the pump side. And there is zero indication it will save even one life a decade. Think of all the drivers pulling over and (gasp!) getting out of their cars for other ressons.

> And there is zero indication it will save even one life a decade

You're just making things up and present as facts.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by lproven »

silisili wrote: post #94
lostlogin wrote: post #46

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

Simple. The third way you try, always.

Macro-scale quantum hardware: USB-A is a spin-1.5 connector.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by lproven »

bdbdbdb wrote: post #149
paganel wrote: post #141

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I'm in Europe, in case you're on the "wrong" side of the pump you just have to make sure that you park the car a little further, so you'd get the pump hose through the back and on to the other side without scratching the car's paint. That's all it is to it. I'm from Romania and I've driven (and hence re-fueled) my car all the way from Bretagne, France, to Peloponnese, Greece, never had a problem. I also don't know an…

I'm also in Europe, I drive a ford, and the only fuel arrow on my dash actually points to the wrong side for filling

Petrol or diesel?

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by lproven »

yunnpp wrote: post #199

TIL: There is an arrow signaling which side to refuel a car. And while I am only slightly embarrassed that I did not know this, I am more excited about having learned this now. Yup, I just checked my car and it really is there, guys.

I was scrolling down the comments waiting for the first comment from someone experiencing this revelation.

I only learned maybe 5-6 years ago -- but then, I only bought my first car at age 55, because I have a kid and moved to a tiny country with infrequent public transport.

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Post by bmicraft »

wlesieutre wrote: post #204
bmicraft wrote: post #135

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The side with the holes. That's true for 95% of devices, with one of the few major exceptions being cheap chinese powerbanks

Or if you’re plugging into a desktop where the ports are vertical

There is usually still a concept of front. Most desktops if laid down would be laying on their right side (so the motherboard & cpu aren't upside down). From there you can still pretty easily tell how the port is oriented without looking.

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Post by lucketone »

chillstreem wrote: post #153
mschild wrote: post #120

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True. Though im unsure of what would be a better one. Doesnt get much simpler than an arrow. Id think that for a car you own you wouldnt need it after the first few times though.

a better solution would have been to have an industry wide standard icon for the fuel inlet and then an arrow would point on which side of the vehicle it is. The way it is now with the pump icon really can be confusing. If the arrow is pointing right, it seems to be suggesting the driver should go to the right of the pump which is obviously wrong. I like the way EVs have the squiggly hose icon and that tells you ever…

“Directions are ambiguous, when somebody says turn right, I grab the wheel by the bottom and move the hand to the right”

*Technically* it could be less ambiguous, but actually it is good enough.

If memorising this is hard, not a big problem, parking next to fuel pump twice is not that huge of a damage.

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Post by quickthrowman »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #15

Anybody else get confused by whether the arrow represents where the car should be or the pump?

It points towards both the gas pump and also the side of the car that has the fuel filler, it’s impossible to confuse.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by rtgfhyuj »

chillstreem wrote: post #153
mschild wrote: post #120

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True. Though im unsure of what would be a better one. Doesnt get much simpler than an arrow. Id think that for a car you own you wouldnt need it after the first few times though.

a better solution would have been to have an industry wide standard icon for the fuel inlet and then an arrow would point on which side of the vehicle it is. The way it is now with the pump icon really can be confusing. If the arrow is pointing right, it seems to be suggesting the driver should go to the right of the pump which is obviously wrong. I like the way EVs have the squiggly hose icon and that tells you ever…

in the absence of industry wide standards, this is an ingenious design, 100% best thing possible

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Post by rtgfhyuj »

sublinear wrote: post #193
icambron wrote: post #182

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I use it regularly when driving an unfamiliar car. I also don’t think it’s ambiguous: it’s a drawing of a gas pump and an arrow telling you where it should be from here, which is a convention from signage the world over. “Paris ->” has never meant “you are this way relative to Paris.” The design I used to find confusing was the controls for periodic windshield wipers: does the width the triangle indicator represent f…

Well, you need to pull up to the side of the gas pump. It's not an "intuition gap". The arrow is ambiguous. You don't pull up next to Paris, but I would get a chuckle if the icon had a little Eiffel tower instead of a gas pump.

nah, the pump is visibly physically, dont need an arroq thats idiotic
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