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After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #157

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> This is based on some ideological pillar of being autarkic, as the Islamic Republic was generally built upon the fear of outside influence This sure is an interesting way to frame fifty years of organized sanctions

I wonder what Iran has done to receive sanctions

I wonder this, too. I also wonder why Saudi Arabia and Israel aren't subject to the same sanctions. I'm sure there's a good reason somewhere....

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #138

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Believe it or not, other things do happen in the country aside from what is reported on in western media. Claiming this is all they do is heinously ignorant.

Don't presume to put words in my mouth. No one is claiming that military activities is all that Iran does. But the reality is they do choose spend a fortune on military aggression. These are optional activities. They could choose to stop and devote those resources to civilian infrastructure if they wanted to.

> Not surprising. A country that invests all of his money on nuclear weapons and threatens the West with bombings- will actually care if it's capital is drying up?

This is the comment I originally commented under.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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Las Vegas is actually very efficient with their water use.

Maybe, but the southwest of the US uses more water than it has and can import. With droughts and overconsumption, the water supply is at risk. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_North_American_me...

Nevada only uses a small percentage of the Colorado river water (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact). Most of the water is used for farming in the desert.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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Water is going to be needed to cool all these data centres going up around the world. They will gobble up electricity and water.

You realize the cooling system in a data center is a closed loop that circulates a fixed volume of water, right? Your kidneys are filtering 200 liters of blood per day. OMG, where's all that blood coming from?!

Apparently, you don't urinate like the rest of us; humans are not a closed loop. Neither are most data center cooling facilities, but I think it's pretty clear that level of fact is wasted here.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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Las Vegas is actually very efficient with their water use.

LOL. Las Vegas water prices are ridiculously low for the paltry amount of water they have. It's hard to get people to not waste the water when the price is artificially kept low. Las Vegas water is less expensive than mine, and we have in excess of 10x the precipitation and everything is naturally green.

They seem to be able to survive with the small amount of water that is allocated to them from the Colorado river.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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No it has not and due to sanctions of USA, they struggle getting the equipement they need.

And what are the sanctions due to?

Mostly their ongoing cold war with Israel, I think.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #151

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> This is based on some ideological pillar of being autarkic, as the Islamic Republic was generally built upon the fear of outside influence You say that if it was some cultural oddity, and not a completely understandable reaction and exactly the same any state with "western culture" would have done in the same situation.

I don't say it's a cultural oddity, western culture had its fair share of self-destructive regimes which ideological underpinnings created great disasters, especially in the 20th century

I feel like I may be insulting your intelligence with how obvious this is, but the Israeli government has had turning Iran into a failed state as an open policy objective since the 1980s. Given that Israeli interests have achieved this end in basically every non-monarchy in the region, I think this is a credible threat. Israel has a highly aggressive and influential lobby in the United States, which has posed debilitating sanctions on Iran for many years now. I’m not saying the religious leadership in Iran are the good guys, but the siege mentality is hardly irrational.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #95

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Las Vegas is actually very efficient with their water use.

Being efficient in watering golf courses in the desert in certainly nice, but maybe it's time to question having over 50 golf courses in the desert with an impending massive water shortage.

That's definitely questionable, but a drop in the bucket. Irrigation for all the farms in the desert is using vastly more water.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #162

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You don't think Iran's situation is also mostly its own doing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%2527%C3%A9... A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mossadegh nationalized and refused to concede to western oil demands.

Whatever happened due to the British, it’s still fact they Iran was doing pretty well before the current revolution. I don’t think anyone would argue the population at large are better off today than they were under the previous regime.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #88

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Am I missing something? How data centers in US/EU evaporating water thousand of miles from Iran affect it? Does it disturb the rain cycle in Iran or something?

The grandparent comment asserts that as data center roll-out continues, water scarcity becomes an even bigger issue globally. The parent comment said DCs don't use water. This claim is easily proven to be incorrect. But, correct, DCs outside Iran have little/no impact on the situation in Iran today.

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