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SoundCloud has banned VPN access

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Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access

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VPNs is such a shady industry, I really don't blame companies for blocking them. 99% of people using a VPN do not understand they are giving all their traffic to a random company in a jurisdiction they can't verify, with privacy policies they didn't read, operated by people they've never heard of, based entirely on marketing claims and affiliate-driven "reviews". There is pretty much zero regulatory oversight. The ow…

... on the other hand, there's the fact that millions of people can't meaningfully participate on the Internet without one.

Many VPN providers may be shady, but none as shady as the governments and corporations that drive people to using them.

Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access

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Unless Apple would make an anonymizing VPN connection mandatory, I don't see any difference to the situation as is. As long as people can be pressured to turn off the VPN, nobody loses any customers. Additionally, I don't think paying customers are the target, since they usually provide identifying information anyway.

I don't think mandating that all traffic on Apple devices must be routed through their servers would be that great for privacy.

Agreed. Though for reference, Apple's private relay has an architecture that makes it much more privacy preserving than most VPNs.

Traffic is sent through two independent relays: Apple sees your IP but not the destination, while a 3rd party egress partner sees the destination but not your IP, with encryption preventing either side from correlating both ends. It's some of the benefits of Tor. But of course you still need to put a lot of faith in Apple's implementation, which is the hardest part.

Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access

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I connect to my residential ISP in the USA via VPN all the time and have never had issues with being blocked for VPN use. Maybe they mean commercial VPN providers that run on the cloud?

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Please make your substantive points without crossing into personal attack.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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I'm in the UK, so I access Reddit through an Irish VPN all the time and have never had issues.

Are you logged in? The block is usually for logged out users.

Have you tried old.reddit.com ? I use that exclusively and it doesn’t seem to mind vpns.

Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access

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No obviously not. There are specialist products for this, and it's not hard to roll your own if you want. The tech is the same, though. That's the point.

> The (proposed) UK VPN ban that was recently discussed here have a definition on what exactly is a "VPN" for the purposes of the ban (basically "VPNs generally advertised to normal consumers") It’s not taking about IPsec tunnels between networkers, or a connection back to your home. It’s talking about surfshark

Maybe, at the moment, because when Surfshark is banned people will learn how to make their own VPN (like I said, it's not hard), or find some other source. And then the government will move to ban that, and we'll go round the loop again.

The point, again, is that the tech is the same, and there's no method for determining what purpose the VPN is being used for.

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In the nicest way possible: who cares? So "they" know my vile pornographic proclivities, my daily commute, and probably what color my poop was this morning. Then what? I get embarassed? Snowden showed the NSA has taps upstream, so in my book: that's over. I'm fairly convinced if your company reaches a size where it could potentially be a national security threat, the government comes knocking (Facebook, Apple, Twitte…

You may believe yourself and your actions to be ignored by the watchers, but you might still want everyone in general to be free of watchers. Both since being constantly watched is detrimental to the human condition, but also since some people may actually dare to improve society if they are not watched. For a longer argument, see The Eternal Value of Privacy , by Bruce Schneier in 2006: https://web.archive.org/web/2…

Good read.

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Uploadig dj sets with comercially released music to Soundcloud is not allowed.

Given that I have hundreds of SoundCloud DJ sets bookmarked that contain commercially released music that’s obviously not true.

Given that I have gigs of mp3 music downloaded from emule i guess is legal.

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Please make your substantive points without crossing into personal attack. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I fail to see how this is a personal attack. I was basically saying I don’t understand why people always have to post these ostensibly on-topic, actually off-topic humble brags (?). Where’s the attack? “You know perfectly well”? People have really thin skins these days if that counts as an attack. I see multiple more aggressive comments in this very comment tree (e.g. “it's an ignorant and arrogant take”) and IMO even those hardly crossed the line.

Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access

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Yarr… when this happens to ye, it’s time to sail the high seas!

Uhhh. Unless people are now using SC completely differently from how I was using it, the media people publish on SC is far too niche to be available via piracy.

Then people need to coordinate. People with active SC accounts need to talk to people who can take ripped files and torrent them.

I don’t have an SC account myself. But get me a file and I will gladly torrent it for others. Some of my torrents have been active for well over a decade, and have hit ratios in the tens of thousands.

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