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Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by mnky9800n »

Dumblydorr wrote: post #207
oceanplexian wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes. Where did you get the idea that banning new technology that could eliminate jobs is even remotely an American value? Going back to the Industrial Revolution the United States has been 100% gas pedal all the time on innovation and disruption, which has in turn created millions of jobs that di…

Not true that US is 100% gas pedal constantly on innovation. You’re forgetting labor reform movements and the service switch away from industry in the last few decades. Also the de-science-ing of the current admin has vastly reduced our innovative capacity, as well as the virtual decapitation of brain drain. Those next generation of brightest immigrants certainly aren’t coming here to deal with ICE, and that’s been t…

I kind of doubt American scientists will leave en masse to go elsewhere. Their options are only Europe, the UK, or China. Most will not be willing to give up the salaries or the resources available to scientists in the USA, even with the current administration, to go live in strongly hierarchical academic systems that they don’t know how to navigate. Especially not for a 30% salary reduction (or more if they go someplace like France or Italy).

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by throw0101a »

thrance wrote: post #204
parineum wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SCOTUS has ruled against Trump numerous times.

But they rule in his favor more often than not. They gave him freaking immunity for any crimes he may commit. This alone enables him to disregard the law without any fear of repercussions.

> This alone enables him to disregard the law without any fear of repercussions.

That does not apply to his lackeys though (unless there's a preemptive pardon).

If (!) there's a change in the President eventually, there needs to be a reckoning for everyone that didn't push back on instructions/orders (including all the folks down the line who are blowing up (alleged) drug boats).

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Post by mnky9800n »

devmor wrote: post #149
oceanplexian wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes. Where did you get the idea that banning new technology that could eliminate jobs is even remotely an American value? Going back to the Industrial Revolution the United States has been 100% gas pedal all the time on innovation and disruption, which has in turn created millions of jobs that di…

> Going back to the Industrial Revolution the United States has been 100% gas pedal all the time on innovation and disruption, which has in turn created millions of jobs that didn't exist before and led to the US running the world's largest economy. Where did you get the idea that this was the cause that created millions of jobs and lead to the US running the world's largest economy, and not say - the knock-on effect…

There is more to history than ww2.

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by aw124 »

Question number one. Is dominance really a necessary part of a country's existence? Can't you just have peaceful relations and supportive relationships with other countries to live in harmony, when artificial intelligence brings benefits to all countries, not just the USA? Can't you build on the technological foundations that have been laid to create sustainable development for your society?

The desire for more. To have more than others, is a key problem that generates unhealthy politics. Unhealthy foreign policy towards other countries. In your pursuit of being first in everything. Being first in everything, preventing the development of other countries, holding onto technologies for yourself. You create an imbalance. You create an imbalance in the global economy, in politics, in the social sphere, and in the social environment.

Isn't there an alternative to having sustainable development? Built on the principles of mutual support and focused not on dominance, but on collaboration between peaceful states. Between peaceful states.

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Post by justarandomname »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #180

And here I thought the GOP was the "states rights" "small gov" party.

Yeah, was thinking the same thing. Reading this:

> State-by-State regulation by definition creates a patchwork of 50 different regulatory regimes

Like... isn't that the whole point? Let the states decide?

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by arminiusreturns »

Where this is really going: AI is the boogie man they are going to try to use to infiltrate and take over computing, it's 90s cryptowars 3.0

The pivot will be when they starting talking about AGI and it's dangers and how it must be regulated! (/clutches pearls)... right now they are at the "look at AI we need it it's awesome" stage.

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by threemux »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #28
andsoitis wrote: post #2

White House AI czar and Silicon Valley venture capitalist David Sacks elaborated on the rationale for the executive order in a post on X. Sacks argued that this domain of “interstate commerce” was “the type of economic activity that the Framers of the Constitution intended to reserve for the federal government to regulate.” At the Oval Office signing ceremony, Sacks said, "We have 50 states running in 50 different di…

Wickard v Filburn rearing its ugly ahead again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

Many of the ills currently befalling the US can be traced to the New Deal era. Including, of course, an HN favorite: our system of employer-sponsored health insurance.

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Post by decremental »

thrance wrote: post #204
parineum wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SCOTUS has ruled against Trump numerous times.

But they rule in his favor more often than not. They gave him freaking immunity for any crimes he may commit. This alone enables him to disregard the law without any fear of repercussions.

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Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by reactordev »

ETH_start wrote: post #124
rubyfan wrote: post #34

Is it me or does this seem like naked corruption at its worst? These tech CEOs hang out at the White House and donate to superfluous causes and suddenly the executive is protecting their interests. This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes.

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>which translates to higher wages for U.S.-based workers.

In what world do you live in and are you taking refugees?

This is not at all how this works. First people to see higher monies are the shareholders and only the shareholders.

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