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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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#211

Wait.. if you need to push a button and then have to get it somewhat close to your mouth to record an audio clip, why not just have a watch app? Pressing the button is still a two-hand thing. Or did I miss something?

You put the ring on your index finger (and likely have it rotated so that the button is pointing to your thumb) and then press the button using the thumb on your same hand. That allows it to be one-handed.

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I'd be curious what happens if you're the kind of person who wears a ring a bit more loosely and/or has slippery skin.

That button isn't always going to be facing your thumb. Maybe you rotate it back with your thumb? Or you need to use your other hand anyway to rotate it?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or better yet. Use your cellphone wich most of us carry 90% of the time?

The cellphone that’s buried in my handbag? I think you missed the expressed use case (admittedly, a few paragraphs into TFA): ”Before, I would take my phone out of my pocket to jot these down, but I couldn’t always do that (eg, while bicycling). I also wanted to start using my phone less, especially in front of my kids. ”

as I wondered in another comment, the button may not always be facing your thumb. so then you'd need to keep fiddling with it anyway.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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This could be such a delightful upgrade for my hybrid digital/analog personal task management system. Right now I use an apple watch to capture tasks which then hackily route through a series of apps/endpoints to get to a thermal label printer, but that's just about the only thing I use the apple watch for. Having an affordable single purpose device like this could be much better -- how straightforward will it be to…

Update, answer is in the video at 20:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArxhS4SQaP0&t=1230

Sounds like the device will natively support sending the audio or transcription to any service you like.

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> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

if it lasts even 1 year with on avg 1 min audio, I think it's nice disposable device to have.

Some ideas if you have an app which can be integrated to other services:

* I feel sick today, notify my manager about it, probably I will stay home

* schedule a task to pickup a trash

* something to remember, colleague X told me he is using service A for data clean up

...

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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post #65

(Pebble founder) Happy to answer any questions you have!

I actually like the device and can see the purpose of it - I’ve tried to kick together similar solutions in the past, but I like the very “one thing only” nature of this.

That said, I absolutely cannot buy a device like this without a replaceable battery. I don’t actually care about the recharge, I get what you’re trying to do with it, but given the state of the e-waste world and, bluntly, the history of hardware brands - a big, big part of the sales pitch for the pebble is the OSS nature of the device because we need to hedge against any one company for longevity. I’d seriously consider this if I knew the battery was replaceable, but I can’t bet on you being around in 4, 6, or 8 years, and I’m not willing to buy intentionally disposable tech anymore.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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No charging: The battery lasts for up to years of average use. After the end of its life, send your ring back to us for recycling. Apple hire this man.

they should still have made it rechargeable tbh.

Yeah, this would have been a neat tool for "middle-of-the-night" thoughts, but I don't want a disposable electronic device. I get why it is that way; not having any charging hardware probably makes the device much smaller. But I'd rather it be a bit bigger and rechargeable.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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post #31

No charging: The battery lasts for up to years of average use. After the end of its life, send your ring back to us for recycling. Apple hire this man.

"Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording". Not sure how long my iphone can record for, but it's probably close to that. Afterwards I get to charge my phone instead of recycle it, though. Apple, don't hire this man. Edit for the downvoters: can my iphone not record that long or something? iphones can't recharge? Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings…

At the lower 12-hour end, if you're doing ~10 seconds per recording (remember this device is primarily for very short reminders and quick commands), that's ~4.3k recordings total. Also keep in mind that you'd only use it when it's inconvenient/undesirable to reach for your phone or any other device, so it's possible this may only be used say 5x in a day at most on average (likely far less). Which means ~2.5 years worth of usage at the lower end, and you'd only ever have to take it off if going for a swim.

Contrast to a phone that, though it has far more capability, you'd have to remember where it is before even reaching for it wherever, and usually has to be on a charger for anywhere from 30 minutes (with super charging) to a few hours daily. Or even being at a laptop/desktop, and at least having to open the relevant app, type/talk into it and then close again to return to primary task. The ring is an instant win for 24/7/365 convenient presence.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

#220

Hmm... I sort of would've preferred it was JUST a button. I wonder if you could even make it perpetually powered by body heat + buffer battery if it's ONLY job was to emit a couple packets over BLE with some burned in ID that you save on the watch. I don't know how efficient peltier elements are going to be on such a small area, but the cold side would be attached to a big metal ring, which feels like an adequate hea…

There are battery-free switches for Hue light systems and, presumably, other similar systems. They're pretty large, though, and pushing the button has a lot of travel, which can be used to generate electricity.
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