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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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I gave Devstral 2 in their CLI a shot and let it run over one of my smaller private projects, about 500 KB of code. I asked it to review the codebase, understand the application's functionality, identify issues, and fix them. It spent about half an hour, correctly identified what the program did, found two small bugs, fixed them, made some minor improvements, and added two new, small but nice features. It introduced…

On what hardware did you run it?

FWIW, it’s free through Mistral right now

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #196

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All those choices seem to have very different trade-offs? I hate $5,000 as a budget - not enough to launch you into higher-VRAM RTX Pro cards, too much (for me personally) to just spend on a "learning/experimental" system. I've personally decided to just rent systems with GPUs from a cloud provider and setup SSH tunnels to my local system. I mean, if I was doing some more HPC/numerical programming (say, similarity se…

> I've personally decided to just rent systems with GPUs from a cloud provider and setup SSH tunnels to my local system. That's a good idea! Curious about this, if you don't mind sharing: - what's the stack ? (Do you run like llama.cpp on that rented machine?) - what model(s) do you run there? - what's your rough monthly cost? (Does it come up much cheaper than if you called the equivalent paid APIs)

I ran ollama first because it was easy, but now download source and build llama.cpp on the machine. I don't bother saving a file system between runs on the rented machine, I build llama.cpp every time I start up.

I am usually just running gpt-oss-120b or one of the qwen models. Sometimes gemma? These are mostly "medium" sized in terms of memory requirements - I'm usually trying unquantized models that will easily run on an single 80-ish gb gpu because those are cheap.

I tend to spend $10-$20 a week. But I am almost always prototyping or testing an idea for a specific project that doesn't require me to run 8 hrs/day. I don't use the paid APIs for several reasons but cost-effectiveness is not one of those reasons.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #209

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Not sure if I'd use the same descriptions so pointedly , but I can see what they mean. It's perfectly fine to link for convenience, but it does feel a little disrespectful/SEO-y to not 'continue the conversation' . A summary in the very least, how exactly it pertains. Sell us. In a sense, link-dropping [alone] is saying: "go read this and establish my rhetorical/social position, I'm done here" Imagine meeting an auth…

I've genuinely been answering the question "what if the labs are training on your pelican benchmark" 3-4 times a week for several months at this point. I wrote that piece precisely so I didn't have to copy and paste the same arguments into dozens of different conversations.

Oh, no. Does this policing job pay well? /s Seriously: less is more, trust the process, any number of platitudes work here. Who are you defending against? Readers, right? You wrote your thing, defended it with more of the thing. It'll permeate. Or it won't. Does it matter?

You could be done, nothing is making you defend this (sorry) asinine benchmark across the internet. Not trying to (m|y)uck your yum, or whatever.

Remember, I did say linking for convenience is fine. We're belaboring the worst reading in comments. Inconsequential, unnecessary heartburn. Link the blog posts together and call it good enough.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #153

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It's open source; the price is up to the provider, and I do not see any on openrouter yet. ̶G̶i̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶s̶t̶r̶a̶l̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶s̶m̶a̶l̶l̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶i̶m̶a̶g̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶e̶n̶s̶i̶v̶e̶,̶ ̶l̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶5̶x̶.̶ ̶I̶f̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶D̶e̶e̶p̶S̶e̶e̶k̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶5̶x̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶s̶t̶.̶ edit: Mea culpa. I missed the active vs dense differe…

> Given that devstral is much smaller, I can not imagine it will be more expensive Devstral 2 is 123B dense . Deepseek is 37B Active. It will be slower and more expensive to run inference on this than dsv3. Especially considering that dsv3.2 has some goodies that make inference at higher context be more effective than their previous gen.

Devstral is purely nonthinking too it’s very possible it uses less models (I don’t know how DS 3.2 nonthinking compares). It’s interesting because Qwen pretty much proved hybrid models work worse than fully separate models.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #171

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Is there some Open Source™ council I am unaware of that bequeaths the open source moniker on certain licenses?

Yes, literally: https://opensource.org/licenses

So if I invent a new license and call it "open source", they will sue me, or...?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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TIL: https://garlicmodel.com/ That looks like the next flagship rather than the fast distillation, but thanks for sharing.

Lol, someone vibecoded an entire website for OpenAI's model, that's some dedication.

People have been doing this for literally every anticipated model release, and I presume skimming some amount of legitimate interest since their sites end up being top indexed until the actual model is released.

Google should be punishing these sites but presumably it's too narrow of a problem for them to care.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Lol, someone vibecoded an entire website for OpenAI's model, that's some dedication.

People have been doing this for literally every anticipated model release, and I presume skimming some amount of legitimate interest since their sites end up being top indexed until the actual model is released. Google should be punishing these sites but presumably it's too narrow of a problem for them to care.

Black SEO in the age of LLMs

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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He made it: https://github.com/simonw/llm

Cool! I can't find it on the read me, but can it run Qwen locally?

The best way to do that at the moment is using the llm-ollama plugin.
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