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"they can move away from Android" nah, it still android
Since 2024, it isn't https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT
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I have been trying to come off of google and cloud by building — quite slowly — my own nas server which has 2 nodes in two geographic regions where I am building certain services like cloud storage and backup, webhosting etc. But I think there are a few key things that need to be community driven to really get rid of this duoply. 0. A privacy first approach would be something like this: `You+App --Read/Write-> f_priv…
I don't understand your syntax: `You+App --Read/Write-> f_private(your_data) Does this mean a server where third parties can send code to run on your data, but cannot respond to them?
They mean 3rd parties have wo permission instead of rwo to your data store
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Those are no longer big these days so no. Also, they're not going to restart a whole product category just for grapheneos. As OnePlus is kinda dead and taken over by oppo, I'm guessing Sony. They have some similar collaboration in the past like with Jolla. My Sony XA2 was one of the few models that could run sailfish.
> Also, they're not going to restart a whole product category just for grapheneos. I don't think that there is any need to restart a new category. Just make your new phones good enough for GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS has close to half a million users, I think it's worth doing some adjustments.
> I don't think that there is any need to restart a new category. Just make your new phones...
For HTC, yes... But neither LG nor Blackberry are still making phones
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#215The GrapheneOS obsession with picking a fight with everyone else is the most unfortunate part of the project.
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.”
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What's the alternative? I doubt even someone as big as Samsung will be willing or able to develop their own alternative OS (atleast one that can actually grab marketshare enough that critical apps get ported), and I can't imagine them wanting to hitch their wagon to the Linux alternatives.
> I doubt even someone as big as Samsung will be willing or able to develop their own alternative OS Huawei pulled it out with HarmonyOS (I don't know how good/bad is it, and if it'll have staying power, but other companies are putting in the effort) PS: btw, Samsung already had its own, non-Android OS with Bada (of course, developing a new OS is only the first step, getting it to be successful wouldn't be easy)
Huawei has a whole-ass Chinese government behind it with quite a lot of incentives to move away from Google. Samsung does not. Heck, China's making its own GPUs and x86 CPUs. They're not great, but when the incentives over there are that strong, the market forces are clearly in a whole different universe compared to the rest of the world.
Bada lasted, what, 3 years? So it did better than Firefox OS (unless you want to count KaiOS as the same thing), but not by much? Not a great look I'd say. And things haven't gotten any easier during the past 15 years, with Apple and Google's positions being more entrenched than ever.
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#217i like graphite its nice and blcack and conductive
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This is really cool, but, longer term, what happens if Google makes android closed source? I feel this is a very real risk.
Not sure if the big manufacturers would want to depend on a proprietary Google OS. Samsung does make a lot of changes to the OS, for instance.
They could still be given the sources, for a hefty license fee.
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Not sure if the big manufacturers would want to depend on a proprietary Google OS. Samsung does make a lot of changes to the OS, for instance.
What's the alternative? I doubt even someone as big as Samsung will be willing or able to develop their own alternative OS (atleast one that can actually grab marketshare enough that critical apps get ported), and I can't imagine them wanting to hitch their wagon to the Linux alternatives.
Why would they be forced to develop their own OS? They could just license this theoretical future proprietary Android OS.
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What's the alternative? I doubt even someone as big as Samsung will be willing or able to develop their own alternative OS (atleast one that can actually grab marketshare enough that critical apps get ported), and I can't imagine them wanting to hitch their wagon to the Linux alternatives.
Why would they be forced to develop their own OS? They could just license this theoretical future proprietary Android OS.
The comment I responded to was:
> Not sure if the big manufacturers would want to depend on a proprietary Google OS.
If a manufacturer doesn't want to depend on a proprietary Google OS, licencing that Google OS is not an alternative.