EU Council Approves New "Chat Control" Mandate Pushing Mass Surveillance

Post by lifestyleguru » Fri, Nov 28, 2025, 1:50 PM UTC

crimsonnoodle58 wrote: post #196

lifestyleguru wrote: post #27

Suddenly it has become normal to scan face in 3D, nonchalantly demand copy of ID and passport, freeze people's money and demand full financial statement arbitrarily. Not only there is no push back but things are becoming more and more restrictive. Authorities and banks avalanche everyone within their reach over all available communication channels with "warnings" about scams and frauds. What direction are they aiming…

Yes I experienced this with FastSpring. Had a store with them for 15+ years, then suddenly they froze it and demanded all of the above. Was quite disturbing to say the least.

Post by sillyfluke » Fri, Nov 28, 2025, 1:51 PM UTC

petcat wrote: post #81

sillyfluke wrote: post #21

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I guess it never hurts to try and find alternate ways of placating the US in order to make them get over their Greenland obession.

I don't care about Greenland one way or another, but I find it funny that the Europeans are so visibly upset about this when the Danish took the territory without permission themselves and are now crying that an even bigger thief might want to come take it from them.

Post by DangitBobby » Fri, Nov 28, 2025, 1:52 PM UTC

ben_w wrote: post #205

Xelbair wrote: post #135

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This type of legislation should never ever be proposed in a democratic system, so had disagree. This is an extremely totalitarian-style move from EU - governing bodies are exempt from the law, meanwhile peasants have to be watched 24/7 for wrongthink, all under guise of protecting the children.

While I agree with the sentiment, you need to think like a state to stop this kind of thing. Even without any argument about personal rights and what's totalitarian, I can't even square the circle of the unstoppable force of "the economy is dependent on encryption that can't be hacked" with the immovable object of "hostile governments and organised criminals undermine ${insert any nation here} and communicate with lo…

Post by TeMPOraL » Fri, Nov 28, 2025, 1:55 PM UTC

YeahThisIsMe wrote: post #111

squigz wrote: post #108

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Awareness of the reality, yes, but there's no reason to play people's emotions to get them "aware" of it - or in other words, get them angry about it.

Yes, there is. This shouldn't move forward at all, regardless of how many steps are involved and how small they are.

Post by petcat » Fri, Nov 28, 2025, 1:58 PM UTC

sillyfluke wrote: post #213

petcat wrote: post #81

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I don't care about Greenland one way or another, but I find it funny that the Europeans are so visibly upset about this when the Danish took the territory without permission themselves and are now crying that an even bigger thief might want to come take it from them.

This is 1814 we're talking about, right? That's only a decade after Louisiana Purchase just for reference and before the Mexican-American war. I guess we might as well give all that back to the Mexicans? You can play this game to the end of time. There's a reason for statute of limitations in law.