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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by chrneu »

orphea wrote: post #23

Not really related but... have anyone else noticed that suggestions on the home page became much worse recently? I'm getting a lot of unrelated videos which are often very old, like published up to 18 years ago. OTOH, videos from subscriptions are not getting suggested, I often have to check individual channels to see if they posted anything new. What's happening?

If you pay attention, this happens every few months. This is youtube tweaking the algorithm.

Every time they tweak the algorithm, content creators scramble to figure out what changes they made so they can exploit it. That's why every few months all the major channels change their styles to all be the same. Gotta exploit that algo!

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Post by JAlexoid »

baumy wrote: post #164
JAlexoid wrote: post #146

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If we're going with bad analogies I have an opposite one - you're walking past the Nike store and the store has a promotion on "Watch 5 minutes of ads and get a free pair of shoes", but you instead kick the TV with the ads over, grab the shoes and run away. Or are you going to pretend that there's no agreement between you and YouTube that you're going to watch ads in exchange for the free content?

I will not be pretending that. I am _asserting_ it. I made no such agreement with YouTube. I am very confused why you think I did

Are you going to lie that you didn't know that the videos are shown to you in exchange for ads?

Entering into a contract doesn't necessarily require you to sign a document. Quite a few contracts that we make every day require no formal acceptance, like entering a shop.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

JAlexoid wrote: post #139
BobaFloutist wrote: post #105

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Was it piracy to leave the room and make a snack during TV ads?

It's becomes piracy when you create a new distribution without ads... which you're doing with ad blockers.

That is not what distribution means.

I am allowed to splice up my personal copies of videos.

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Post by chrneu »

29athrowaway wrote: post #135

Neuralink was mentioned, and it immediately made me remember the sad stories of the rhesus macaques that were used as Neuralink animal test subjects for brain implants. The quality of the work was poor and they were able to pull the implants out and then the implants got loose, causing bacterial and fungal infections and swelling and the macaques had to be euthanized. But not before banging their heads against everyt…

This is normal in the meat industry. It sucks it happens to test subjects, or any living creature, but this is nothing compared to the daily cruelty inflicted upon innocent animals that we deem "food".

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Post by rmunn »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #100
komali2 wrote: post #79

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> but ad blocking is definitely piracy This is a huge escalation of an already over-stuffed term. Equating piracy to theft was bad enough, now choosing to not view ads is also piracy, which is theft? I try to be chill here but no, foot down, absolutely not. Blocking ads is nothing more than determing what content comes in on the wire to the computer you own, or what content is rendered in your web browser. That's it.…

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What deal? What contract?

I'm serious. Show me in the Youtube Terms of Service where it says that blocking ads is against the contract. I've looked. Carefully. There is no such language there.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

JAlexoid wrote: post #154
komali2 wrote: post #128

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> The deal you make with YouTube is that you watch the ad in exchange for the video. Did I? Can you tell me where I made this deal? I navigated to YouTube.com, I don't see a contract, I don't see a place to sign or a hand to shake. Where is this bilateral agreement? I think what you meant to say was, YouTube really very much wants me to watch their ads, and I don't care to, so I won't. If your counter is that then Yo…

> I've already archived all the videos I care about That's quite literally what we call piracy.

What makes it different from VHS?

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Post by JAlexoid »

Nextgrid wrote: post #162
JAlexoid wrote: post #138

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You can rationalize this any way you want, but at the end of the day you're screwing over not a faceless corporation - but the very people who put out videos on YouTube. It's fine if you're OK with it, but don't pretend that you're not doing that.

I’m totally cool with “screwing over” people who make their income screwing gullible people into falling for scams or buying useless, overpriced junk they don’t need. I don’t need to rationalize it for myself, I’m just trying to show some people the error in their ways, but maybe their portfolio of ad-related stocks is clouding their vision?

I hate to break it to you, but you're not doing any of that.

You seem like you have a robin hood complex or something similar.

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Post by timcobb »

chrneu wrote: post #185
danpalmer wrote: post #36

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I do pay for YouTube Premium, I see no ads, and everything works pretty conveniently. What's your point, that with a bit of extra effort you can pirate content?

For me, and many people, advertising is a mental health issue. I don't enjoy those ads, they are very disturbing and jarring. It causes me anxiety and I don't like the things that those ads normalize. I don't think most people, especially americans, realize how far off the rails our society is in terms of our normalization of insane shit. So, for health reasons, I block nearly all advertisements. It is a HUGE mental…

You're responding to a comment that says they pay and don't see ads

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Post by sreya »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

I used to pay for YouTube premium. I stopped doing that, uninstalled the apps, and now use it through the browser with adblockers. (Yes, on my phone and iPad.) It works so well I’ve gotten at least half a dozen neighbours to do the same. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a definitive step up in UX.

Not being able to play Youtube in the background on your phone is unfortunately one of the main appeals of Premium. There's a lot of good mixes, concerts, etc that I play for the audio while doing something else that I can't do without Premium unless I wanted to leave my phone unlocked (and pray I don't pocket click a link).

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Post by wafflemaker »

danpalmer wrote: post #59
tcfhgj wrote: post #40

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Blocking ads is hardly "pirating" content

To be clear, this is not a value judgement. I pirate content sometimes, and I use adblockers, but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I realise that online ads have other implications such as tracking that, say, a blu-ray rip downloaded from a torrent doesn't have, but the reason for piracy doesn't change the fact that it is.

Just use AdNausem (uBlock Origin mod) that clicks ALL THE ADDS. Problem solved! Wish more people used it, so the creators could again make money from ads.
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