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When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Tariffs are great for a left wing, socialist, anti-globalist, green agenda.

are these bad things?

If you are poor, you should be terrified, because what those policies mean is that the rich are pulling the ladder up behind themselves now that they’re rich beyond their wildest dreams.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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post #184

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Tariffs are great for a left wing, socialist, anti-globalist, green agenda.

are these bad things?

No. It's just ironic to see them coming from a capitalist demagogue desguised as a republican.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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post #118

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I have a bigger issue: a bunch of undocumented CANADIAN geese in MY BACKYARD! I want ICE to send them BACK to Snow Mexico!

Canadians get annoyed when you call them that. I like to increase the annoyance by calling them Canadia Gooses.

My understanding is that the correct plural for a Canadian goose IS Canadian gooses.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Nah, I'm sure he's more focused on vintage furniture.

Likes the creak of some old wood

With the amount of time he spends with Trump and Peter Thiel..probably

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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This is one of the great misconceptions. There are often no "native" alternatives. Even the machines that make the chips are nearly all made in one country and then shipped around the world. The amazing, modern nature of our modern world is built on the collective effort and knowledge of humankind globally. Globally.

There's concern that if all our chips come from one country, they could cut the supply off and make demands. That's called an "embargo". It's also done to protect local industries, hence the term "protectionism". For example, Canada's large tariffs on American milk are there to protect the local Canadian milk producers. AFAIK, Trump's tariffs are meant to serve the following purposes: 1. so critical supplies, like ch…

What leads you to believe that the implementation of tariffs under this administration was done for the purposes that you have enumerated?

It seems that you're operating under the normally reasonable assumption that these policies were implemented after careful consideration with specific goals in mind. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that the people involved in this are doing what they're doing for well-thought out reasons or ones that are meant to benefit America.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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post #118

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I have a bigger issue: a bunch of undocumented CANADIAN geese in MY BACKYARD! I want ICE to send them BACK to Snow Mexico!

Canadians get annoyed when you call them that. I like to increase the annoyance by calling them Canadia Gooses.

Candida Geese delenda est

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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In the country where I live, these kinds of fees are generally referred to "import taxes", because it's the buyer who's having to pay extra money which is going to the tax authority, not the seller. While they can have an effect of encouraging domestic production, mostly they're a way to extract more money from the population.

Hello fellow Brazilian! We cry in 200-300% on top of shipping costs.

That's just not true. It's 60% and 20% for items below US$50.

You could theoretically get charged over 100% the price of the product if you buy something really cheap and shipping is more expensive than the product because shipping is taxed too.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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No sure why you are being down-voted. Your argument is coherent and correct. Targeted tariffs on specific goods leads to the development of local production of that good. Lots and lots of countries have these in place. Blanket tariffs are, of course, useless. The US doesn't have the climate to grown coffee, so tarifing Brazil serves no purpose other than taxing coffee consumption. A surgeon uses a scalpel, not an axe…

While tariffs on coffee do not incentivize coffee growing in US they do two things that are very beneficial for US economy 1) People replace coffee with hot cider, infusion tea or some other local substitute good. 2) Tariff on coffee as set up by Trump incentivize coffee producing countries to buy US goods whether it’s oil or cars to make trade balance more equal. The only question is the scale of above but tariff on…

Yes, tarifs can change behavior. I'm not sure that's the goal here, and I'm not convinced there's a local alternative to coffee (at the scale Americans drink coffee.)

>> Tariff on coffee as set up by Trump incentivize coffee producing countries to buy US goods whether it’s oil or cars to make trade balance more equal.

Countries don't buy goods, people do. Apparently insulting Canada didn't make them decide to consume more made-in-America goods. I'm not sure that random acts of insulting leads yo the effects you are proposing.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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post #114

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I think a lot of that in the US got spun up with Nixon, Reagan brought a lot of it to the mainstream though. Both of them hated unions with a passion that is for sure.

Unions are the best of all the bad solutions we’ve come up with so far for labor to compete with capital. The worst of course is collectivism through government, though that’s being tried again…

Where is collectivism being tried again?

Sure there are a number of Democratic Socialists and other progressives winning elections and driving changes but everything I’ve seen policy-wise has been directly targeted areas where unchecked capitalism has clearly failed their constituents. Even in those cases, there’s no dramatic shift towards government ownership.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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This was before current administration. FedEx charged me $60 AFTER delivery of $30 hat gifted to me from my US peers (yep, no warning, I got an email that I owe them $60 a few days after parcel was delivered). I originally thought it's a scam, but it was not. I diaputed this stating I should be informed BEFORE, not after delivery. After 6 months of back and forth I found that it's actually EU tarrifs.
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