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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by skeeter2020 »

harshalizee wrote: post #61
verelo wrote: post #43

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You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

>> What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months?

Not an Apple product user, but my wife and kids are, and... install the OS upgrade? That pretty much bricked 2 of our phones and a friend's as well.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by rogerrogerr »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #211
harshalizee wrote: post #61

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What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

>> What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? Not an Apple product user, but my wife and kids are, and... install the OS upgrade? That pretty much bricked 2 of our phones and a friend's as well.

“Pretty much bricked” sounds a lot like “didn’t brick”

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by gyomu »

freediver wrote: post #196
gyomu wrote: post #18

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Steve wanted to become chairman of the board and teach at Stanford. Given how much he trusted Tim, I’m not so sure the company would have taken a dramatically different path had he been around longer.

> Steve wanted to become chairman of the board and teach at Stanford. Do you have a source for this?

I've heard it from Laurene on several occasions, she alludes to it in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdvzYtgmIjs&t=2825s

(in case the link goes down: Tim Cook, Sir Jony Ive KBE, and Laurene Powell Jobs, Code 2022 Interview with Kara Swisher)

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by jaredklewis »

ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Not as a shareholder, but as a customer and user I’m very ok if they just focus on making those rectangles.

Makes no difference to me if Apple does the new “innovative” products or if some other company does it. But if Apple starts getting “visions” and those interfere with the iOS and macOS experience that I have and like now, I’ll be annoyed. I like my MacBook, AirPods, and iPhone how they are now. If they don’t screw these up, great. Anything else is gravy.

I feel your comment subtly implies that if Apple doesn’t start making a self driving car or LLM Siri or robot dog walker or whatever then it’s “boring,” but I strongly feel there is (for all intents and purposes) limitless engineering that could go into refining and gradually expanding their existing ecosystem of products and these efforts would be quite interesting in their own right.

During Cook’s time at the helm, Apple has made major product improvements that greatly improved their value to me including AFS, arm laptop processors, Secure Enclave, camera improvements, and many others.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by mullingitover »

bitpush wrote: post #167
buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #146

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How is the Tesla relationship with CarPlay different than the Toyota one? You didn’t make that clear at all.

People buy Tesla for Tesla and not because CarPlay. But CarPlay is a purchasing decision factor for other brands, which means a power imbalance exists. So this is a classic game theory situation. You want all participants (Toyota, Honda, Ford) to cooperate (not have CarPlay) and not defect. So participants watch each others move. If they stick together, all of them stand to win. If one defect, in the short term they…

> People buy Tesla for Tesla and not because CarPlay.

They increasingly just don't buy Tesla. Strong growth in that segment lately.

I recall though, back in 2021 we rented one as a test drive situation. The UX was so horrific I did an immediate 180 on that idea. Hard pass. Carplay might've saved that sale, their stock infotainment is trash.

I wouldn't be surprised if they go all on in Carplay Ultra near the end.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by snowwrestler »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #166
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139

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Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

No, Apple had been doing their own silicon (presumably you mean for their phones) while Jobs was still CEO, and he bought PA Semi in 2008 which put them on the path to do their own CPU cores (iPhone 5 with Swift CPU was released the year after he died so he'd obviously seen the core design process through from the beginning to likely initial tape-out or very close to).

Cook was COO through all of that too. He’s been at Apple since 1998.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by FabHK »

jwr wrote: post #177
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Most importantly, it seems Cook doesn't love computers and doesn't use many (most?) of Apple products. It shows. Especially with Mac OS.

Sorry, are you suggesting that Cook doesn't use a computer in his day-to-day work, or has a Windows PC or Linux box in his office? Somehow I doubt that.

(It's "macOS", BTW.)

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Post by rzerowan »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #194
chubs wrote: post #174

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Is it worth mentioning that there are almost countless Chinese EV brands nowadays? I wonder if Apple was really trying. I’m sure it’s difficult, of course, but it seems like every week there’s a new car manufacturer. To quote Clarkson ‘how hard could it be’ ;)

Maybe they tried and didn’t find that they could be competitive with the hundreds of Chinese EV producers. The market was crowded, and they didn’t see what special value they could add? I mean, it’s already cliche that xiaomi decides to release one, but they released a heat pump as well, their stores in the mall are pretty confusing.

Interestingly enough if apple really wanted they could acquihire one of the currrent EV brands and do a beats/siri on it. Theres probably a lot of churn currently before the field stabilises , and probably the entry point for a new entrant would be currently closing.

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Post by crooked-v »

gcanyon wrote: post #160
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139

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Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

If the Vision Pro were $1000 I'd buy it without hesitation. At $1500 I'd eventually talk myself into it. At $3500 I'm just waiting.

It's a product category that will be really interesting in ten years (no sarcasm), when the hardware actually catches up in usability to the concept.
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