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Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by SlightlyLeftPad »

AstralStorm wrote: post #193

How can you even sue without any legal identity? This website and an organisation does not happen to have any. Might as well be some shell company in the Carribeans with no legal standing in France. It's not even good enough for public prosecution, as the tip would then go through French services. This law is completely backwards, and worse than a SLAPP. If you cannot respond to a report in any way, it should be null…

Lawmakers are gonna have to figure that out soon (years hopefully) since it’s not unlikely that AGI will have the same issue.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by econ »

atomicfiredoll wrote: post #2

I don't know anything about Adguard, but good on the team for doing the extra digging instead of just going along with the claim. Even better that they're sharing what they've found with everyone else.

Their DNS is great. Removing websites without a good reason would quickly ruin everything for them.

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Post by freakynit »

codedokode wrote: post #80

Note that association's site is made from this free template [1] with minimal editing (can see it using diff). The web hosting account at name.com (prices starting from $5/year) was registered around Jan 12, 2025 [2]. The page also contains commented out section with a part of French mobile phone number and words "Emergency Standard" (the template contained fictional number here): Emergency Standard --> [1] https://w…

Publication manager: Jean DOMINIQUE

Author of response PDF to Adguard: someone named "bob"

Uses Microsoft and Office 365

RNA number W691110691.

Was declared on February 15, 2025, and published in the Journal Officiel on March 18, 2025

Headquartered at 131 rue de Créqui, 69006 Lyon 6 in the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, specifically in the Rhône department.

Publication number: 20250011, announcement number 1688

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by saturnite »

AstralStorm wrote: post #193

How can you even sue without any legal identity? This website and an organisation does not happen to have any. Might as well be some shell company in the Carribeans with no legal standing in France. It's not even good enough for public prosecution, as the tip would then go through French services. This law is completely backwards, and worse than a SLAPP. If you cannot respond to a report in any way, it should be null…

I remember when publishers were suing individuals using nothing more than a list of IP addresses. Those crazy times seem to have come around again.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by vintermann »

rgj wrote: post #135
user_7832 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well then, that would be a very interesting thing to watch when it happens! From the article, the penalty for a false report: > ...shall be punished by one year’s imprisonment and a fine of €15,000. Side note, would anybody know how "easily" do political elites get off the hook in France?

But apparently there was actual CSAM there, since the article mentioned that archive.is removed it within a few hours. So the claim was real. Why did they make up such a story around it?

Uploading illegal material of some sort to a site with user-contributed content, and then immediately reporting it, is a common abuse tactic.

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Post by lostlogin »

breppp wrote: post #170
hobs wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pizzagate = not real, what I just said is not a conspiracy theory.

The jeffery epstein case is real, however the narrative created is similar to pizzagate "world elite is practicing a child sex ring", this is why it's so compatible with the current vogue bipartisan populism which generally says "your life sucks because of the rich/elites" jeffery epstein was in reality associated with many politicians, including trump and clinton, as far as I can tell on both sides there is a lot of…

With Epstein the is plenty that did happen that remains unaddressed and is completely factual. Eg The-Man-Formerly-Know-As-Prince-Andrew. He is a child rapist.

Quite why the now dead queen supported him so much (presumably including the payouts) is baffling.

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Post by codedokode »

stef25 wrote: post #64
codedokode wrote: post #25

I used the site several times to archive some page or send it to someone who cannot access the site directly. I never archived anything illegal and never stumbled upon illegal things there. So I don't know why they want to arrest the owner. Also the site is pretty advanced, it can handle complicated sites and even social networks. > But because it can also be used to bypass paywalls How? Does the site pay for subscri…

France possibly found a way to pressure Durov into cooperating. Preempting similar actions by Russia. Classic intelligence methods to get someone to come over to the other side. Perhaps the DGSE also got to plug a cable in to the Telegram infrastructure, which would be huge plus for them and the west in general not in the least because of the war. You could say France has pwnd Durov. If I'm not mistaken some signific…

> France possibly found a way to pressure Durov

I assume the way is to just shake handcuffs before him, so it wasn't a long search. Durov is not a hero type.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by lostlogin »

gruez wrote: post #145
immibis wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>with the evidence from the emails we can upgrade it to the much more direct fact "President Trump is a pedophile who liked to rape little girls" A bunch of vaguely worded emails is enough to summarily conclude that someone is a criminal? I'm glad you're not a judge.

The convicted criminal hasn’t been convicted of that particular crime yet. Innocent until proven guilty again.

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Post by fsagx »

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #6

Its interesting that being unable to find a legal route to dig up dirt on archive.is, they're going the route of CSAM allegations. I first heard of this technique on a discussion on Lowendtalk from a hoster discussing how pressure campaigns were orchestrated. The host used to host VMs for a customer that was not well liked but otherwise within the bounds of free speech in the US (I guess something on the order of KF/…

KF/SaSu/SF ?
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