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Re: Zed is our office

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Post by TiredOfLife » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 10:52 PM UTC

another_twist wrote: post #188

I understand interacting with other engineers right in the editor but I dont get why so many collab tools need to be bolted on to what is basically a text editor. This will only fragment communications since its not just engineers that work in any company. Meaning you'll now have communication spread out in Slack and Zed making collaboration difficult, not easy. I dont honestly dont get the allure of pair programming…

> why so many collab tools need to be bolted on to what is basically a text editor. This will only fragment communications since its not just engineers that work in any company

Once they finish their collab platform they can make it standalone. The current version in Zed seems to be isolated very good.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by tharne » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 10:52 PM UTC

girvo wrote: post #192

BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

I know this is silly but the biggest thing that’s driving me away from it is how god awfully blurry it looks on my 1440p screen :/

> I know this is silly but the biggest thing that’s driving me away from it is how god awfully blurry it looks on my 1440p screen :/

Not silly at all. User experience is important. If you're going to spend as much time in a tool as most programmers do in their editors, it should look and feel nice.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by paradox460 » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:07 PM UTC

nixpulvis wrote: post #48

I would love to see collab servers take the same path as LSPs in being standarized and integrated across various editors and IDEs. I would love to work more closely with my VSCode peers, for example. Of course some features may be outside the standard and only supported with likewise editors, e.g. voice chat perhaps, but having shared cursors and a text chat would be a good start.

We actually had it that way 20 years ago. SubEthaEdit could work with Coda 2 and TextMate

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by rileymichael » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:16 PM UTC

people live-dumping their comments into a text doc while i'm presenting with no ability to know _who_ left a comment (unless they manually prefix their name) really showcases that its the wrong tool.. https://i.imgur.com/vEttouw.png

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by bigstrat2003 » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:25 PM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #111

kriops wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you saying here? It is true that VS Code is less bad in terms of responsiveness in comparison to Atom. Zed, however, is written in Rust (i.e., not Electron), and I would guess it is at least an order of magnitude more responsive than VS Code across every possible scenario. Web technologies are an unrivaled technological marvel for what they are, but it is disingenuous to imply they represent anything near th…

It depends. It definitely opens faster and the general UI seems a bit faster, but open a largish file (a few MB) and VSCode will easily out-perform Zed because it doesn't have that fancy CDRT thing. In my experience VSCode is plenty fast. Use it with no extensions and you will have zero problems with performance (though memory use isn't great). The real problems come when you have extensions, especially because it's…

> you will have zero problems with performance (though memory use isn't great)

Memory use is a part of performance, though, so I definitely would say VS Code has serious performance issues. It's why I no longer use it, in fact. It's inexcusable for something to eat as much RAM as VS Code does.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by gherkinnn » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:28 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #145

verdverm wrote: post #96

I really really don't want comms or multiplayer tools in my IDE. Don't bring the attention economy to my cave of solitude, it's where I go to escape all that noise

This feels like a huge distraction from building an IDE. A monnumentous yak shave. I've never used or cared for multiplayer in VSCode or JetBrains. It's silly. I've never been the pair programmer type. The only time I've needed to share an IDE is during a SEV or ridiculously complicated systems bug, and that's 1% of the time.

So you're saying that you're not the target audience, therefore it is silly?

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by dbacar » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:34 PM UTC

BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

What I like in zed (pretty new to me) is that I dont have to deal with vim/neovim plugings to make the basic stuff work. Zed workds out of the box(for rust).

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by ianks » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:35 PM UTC

I’m always _this_ close to adopting Zed, but I just can’t get used to the project search. I’m too used to telescope now. Maybe I need to bite the bullet because I think Zed’s search is objectively better. Old dog, I suppose…

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by fallat » Thu, Nov 13, 2025, 11:35 PM UTC

cipehr wrote: post #190

bitbasher wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...doesn't mean the majority is right :)

...doesn't mean there is a right or wrong either :)

...but it does mean there is a corporate controlled program that can back stab you at any moment!

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by xrd » Fri, Nov 14, 2025, 12:04 AM UTC

yobert wrote: post #207

xrd wrote: post #19

I love Zed. I, mostly, love the direction they are taking the editor in. But. There are now two times I see Zed going in the wrong direction. The AI integration was one. This feels like the wrong direction again. I never really liked the AI integration. It felt off to me. I do love coding with Claude and I think I know why. It presents the "information I need to know" in a way my puny brain can handle it. Colored dif…

I agree about the bad side of slack culture, except when compared to how things were before slack: Horrible email threads, in-person meetings, phone calls, and people walking over to your desk to ask you stupid things they could have looked up themselves. Slack revolutionized this for me because I can turn it off anytime I want. When I want focus, I close it and it cannot reach me for some time. Then I pull it up and…

That's a good point. Email is much worse than slack.

But I still think it is impossible to manage all the things happening in slack. And the expectation is that it was said in slack, so you should know about it! Whereas, I definitely go through and review PRs and if there is a culture and management agreement around good PRs, then I can easily understand how things work, how things have changed, etc. I never get that from slack. And, I never got it from email either, fairly.