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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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I do not like the Cybertruck, the company that makes it, nor the man who owns said company. That being said, I still appreciate seeing them out on the road as an example of what's effectively a concept car that made it to production. It also looks cool and stands apart aesthetically from pretty much everything else on the market, even if the giant 1-piece wiper and black plastic wheel well trim pieces mar the clean l…

> It also looks cool

No. No, it does not.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

Not only Cybertruck. Also other trucks like Ford F150 etc.

Unlike Ford trucks, the cybertruck isn't even street legal in Europe due to its anti-human design. They are not the same.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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I don't know how any Tesla investor can justify paying anyone $1 trillion when the products he makes keep falling apart.

This always reminds me of a fragment of lost tragic ancient Greek verse, quoted only in Aristotle's Art of Rhetoric:

Often, when the gods bring great prosperity as a gift for men

They do so not out of goodwill towards them

But so that their ruin may be more conspicuous.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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I'd hardly call it "weak" with gigafactories setting new standards in efficiency, and Tesla being the only "recently" founded US carmaker making massive amounts of cars. All while they have more vertical integration than the competition. Cybertrucks are for pioneers. If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y. They've improved all parts of the design continuously, the cars are indistinguishable…

> If you want something super reliable, just get a "boring" Model Y Not according to the many comments here about Model Y.

What's unreliable about the Model Y, other than some fit-and-finish issues? Does it have battery failures or mechanical/electronic problems?

Most MY and M3 owners I have talked to rave about their cars and have very high customer loyalty.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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> how did this pass safety standards In the US, the safety standards consider only the occupants of the car. The safety of pedestrians, cyclists, and occupants of other cars are not considered. This was looking like it would change but with the current administration I doubt it. The Cybertruck is not legal in Europe and anywhere else with actual safety standards.

Downvote or not, it's true: > NHTSA conducts frontal, side and rollover tests because these types account for the majority of crashes on America's roadways. > IIHS tests evaluate two aspects of safety: crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — and crash avoidance and mitigation — technology that can prevent a crash or lessen its severity. > As well as assessing how well cars protect the…

That's misleading. They don't test for pedestrian safety as part of the normal tests. But they test for it generally, not specific to any model and use those results to inform their rules about what can and can't be sold. Same story with rollover testing.

This is why hood ornaments mostly died and flip up headlights fully died. The NHTSA doesn't write rules that ban specific features. You can do anything it meets the requirements. You can make brake hoses out of woven spaghetti if you want. It'll probably cost you a lot to get them to a performance point where they meet the rules though.

Furthermore, the NHTSA doesn't do most testing. The testing must be done and the testing needs to meet NHTSA standards but the OEMs are free to DIY it or outsource.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

Mechanically sure, but I still feel way safer when a Tesla (of any kind) is approaching me as a pedestrian or bicyclist than any other vehicle (except maybe Waymo) because I know they will alert the driver and brake if necessary. Any other car, especially older trucks, I'm quite afraid of, based on experience.

As a motorcyclist I feel far less safe when one is around me.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tesla-fatal-seattle-are...

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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https://insideevs.com/news/667723/musk-estimates-tesla-could... Musk Estimates Tesla Could Sell 250,000-500,000 Cybertrucks Yearly https://insideevs.com/news/766162/tesla-cybertruck-sales-q2-... Tesla Cybertruck Sales Fall Dramatically To Their Lowest Level In A Year

Not to be deterred, the latest package has an objective of ten million robo taxis in ten years.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

It looks like it's designed to inflict maximum harm, but it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you than an F-150 or Silverado or Ram. It has a lower hood height which is the aspect that has been hypothesized to be the reason that trucks kill pedestrians at a much greater rate than cars. I'm not trying to condone Cybertruck here. I hope the Cybertruck becomes a rallying cry to mandate pedestrian safety in th…

Yeah it seems like a lower hood height would be an improvement, but it's also pretty obvious that sharp corners are going to make things much worse! There's no way you can say "it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you"...

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Well we're going to have a new president in a little over 2 years so I'm not sure why you say "never."

You're awaiting a new president with hopes the Chinese can again saturate the market with more of their cheap junk?

ehhh they said that about the Japanese cars in the 70's and 80's
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