ICC ditches Microsoft 365 for openDesk

Post by jacquesm » Fri, Nov 07, 2025, 12:17 PM UTC

ultim8k wrote: post #206

jacquesm wrote: post #152

Rightly so. They should have never used it in the first place. What with the US not recognizing the court it always made very little sense to me that they would rely on the infrastructure components to be supplied by the USA. The latest sanctions are just another step in something that was already in motion from day #1. The world order at the highest level relies on the nations themselves to behave, especially the la…

Agreed. And I think European countries really need to start eating our own dog food and stop being 100% reliant on US software and hardware. It's not (only) about opposing certain political behaviours, but (also) about supporting our financial independence and wellbeing.

Post by 1718627440 » Fri, Nov 07, 2025, 12:24 PM UTC

skissane wrote: post #132

NoboruWataya wrote: post #104

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MSFT already operates in Europe via subsidiaries for a whole host of reasons. But hiving certain assets off in a subsidiary is very rarely effective to avoid laws and regulations that apply to the parent. The parent controls the subsidiary so a court or regulator having jurisdiction over the parent could order it to get what it needs from the subsidiary. This is particularly so in the US, which is kind of known for e…

> The parent controls the subsidiary so a court or regulator having jurisdiction over the parent could order it to get what it needs from the subsidiary. But what if the parent’s jurisdiction orders the parent to order the subsidiary to do something illegal in the subsidiary’s jurisdiction? If local management obey the order, they risk being prosecuted by their jurisdiction’s authorities-so they’ll likely refuse. Wha…

Post by prmoustache » Fri, Nov 07, 2025, 2:07 PM UTC

mikestew wrote: post #128

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #80

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> a lawyer who was forced off Word Perfect My lawyers at big firms still use it, though they export .doc(x).

But how are they exporting such a modern document format? Holee crap, because it's still being sold an updated! https://www.wordperfect.com/en/ And the suite includes Quattro Pro, for those that are itchin' for that spreadsheet-flavored blast from the past. If I didn't already have the Apple suite on my Mac (which does all I need out of an office suite), I'd spend the $50 for home/student version just for the lulz.

Post by ultim8k » Fri, Nov 07, 2025, 4:34 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #211

ultim8k wrote: post #206

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Agreed. And I think European countries really need to start eating our own dog food and stop being 100% reliant on US software and hardware. It's not (only) about opposing certain political behaviours, but (also) about supporting our financial independence and wellbeing.

You can toss China in there as well while we're at it. We are just replacing one dependency with another.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Nov 07, 2025, 4:41 PM UTC

C6JEsQeQa5fCjE wrote: post #190

lmm wrote: post #185

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I'm all for calling him out for that, but none of that sounds like a clear-cut ICC crime.

He continuously armed the direct perpetrators of the genocide; supported them financially, with logistics, and intelligence; threatened their adversaries from getting involved; vetoed multiple UN security council resolutions that attempted to impose a ceasefire. He was a direct participant in the genocide. If you're murdering someone on the street and I am standing next to you watching your back, fighting off anyone…