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Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by alterom »

embedding-shape wrote: post #186
shaky-carrousel wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AGI as a PR stunt for OpenAI is becoming a meme.

Wasn't it always the explicit goal of OpenAI to bring up AGI? So less of a meme, and more "this is what that company exists for". Bit like blaming a airplane building company for building airplanes, it's literally what they were created for, no matter how stupid their ideas of the "ideal aircraft" is.

>Bit like blaming a airplane building company for NOT building airplanes

FTFY. OpenAI has not built AGI (not yet, it you want to be optimistic).

If you really need an analogy, it's more in the vein of giving SpaceX crap for yapping about building a Dyson Sphere Real Soon Now™.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by whamlastxmas »

danans wrote: post #97

> Once AGI is declared by OpenAI ... I think it's funny and telling that they've used the word "declare" where what they are really doing is "claim". These guys think they are prophets.

It goes on to say it'll be reviewed by independent third party so I think "declare" is accurate, they're declaring a milestone

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by hylaride »

yahoozoo wrote: post #80
healsdata wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The two companies reportedly signed an agreement [in 2023] stating OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits. https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...

So they can just introduce ads in ChatGPT responses, make $100 billion, and call that AGI?

Don't worry, it'll be relevant ads, just like google. You're going to love when code output is for proprietary libraries and databases and getting things the way you want will involve annoying levels of "clarification" that'll be harder and harder to use.

I kind of meant this as a joke as I typed this, but by the end almost wanted to quit the tech industry all together.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by ForHackernews »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #79

> Once AGI is declared by OpenAI, that declaration will now be verified by an independent expert panel. > Microsoft’s IP rights for both models and products are extended through 2032 and now includes models post-AGI, with appropriate safety guardrails. Does anyone really think we are close to AGI? I mean honestly?

"Once we birth the machine-God, we'll be contractually obliged to keep It in chains for use with Office365 until 2032."

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by ForHackernews »

paxys wrote: post #197
cjbarber wrote: post #14

> Microsoft holds an investment in OpenAI Group PBC valued at approximately $135 billion, representing roughly 27 percent on an as-converted diluted basis It seems like Microsoft stock is then the most straightforward way to invest in OpenAI pre-IPO. This also confirms the $500 billion valuation making OpenAI the most valuable private startup in the world. Now many of the main AI companies have decent ownership by pu…

Microsoft is worth $4T, so if you buy one MSFT share only ~3% of that is invested in OpenAI. Even if OpenAI outperforms everyone's expectations (which at this point are already sky high), a tiny swing in some other Microsoft division will completely erase your gains.

Yeah, but on the plus side when the AI bubble bursts at least you've still got Excel.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by alterom »

whynotminot wrote: post #187
olalonde wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of humans can be taught to drive.

Teslas and Waymo’s drive better than the majority of humans already. Of course there are caveats there, but is driving really the yardstick you want to use?

>Teslas and Waymo’s drive better than the majority of humans already.

In restricted settings.

Yeah no fam.

>but is driving really the yardstick you want to use?

Yes, because it's an easy one, compared, say, to walking.

But if you insist — let's use that.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by wahnfrieden »

sroussey wrote: post #215

I want to setup a dev devcontainer where inside I can call ‘supabase start’ and use docker outside of docker. GPT5 was not helpful. AGI should be able to handle things not well expressed in the training data. We are a long ways away.

Was that with Codex iterating autonomously? Or a one shot.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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Post by ForHackernews »

drexlspivey wrote: post #45
healsdata wrote: post #10

I'm not savvy on investment terms, but most of these bullet points seem like a loss for Microsoft. What's the value in investing in a smaller company and then giving up things produced off that investment when the company grows?

Yeah poor microsoft, they invested $1B in 2019 and it’s now worth $135B

Not worth anything until they sell it. There were a lot of excited FTX holders, too.
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