With the stroke of a key, 100 million customer-installed cameras become part of the surveillance state.
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>elected government Elected in part by the useful idiots on HN and many other places. They were so ignorant of how government actually works they were happy to give it this power. They foresaw the jackboot being used to stomp petty criminals and fellow middle class types who don't "pay their fair share". But they had never cracked open a history book because if they had they would know that sort of stuff is never a t…
Maybe people are just responding to things like labelling them all as "useful idiots" and "Nazis" and "fascists"
"You called me a nasty name so I'm gonna blow up our 250 year old democracy"
There's another word we can call them: juvenile.
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Maybe people are just responding to things like labelling them all as "useful idiots" and "Nazis" and "fascists"
"You called me a nasty name so I'm gonna blow up our 250 year old democracy" There's another word we can call them: juvenile.
No a bunch of extremely intelligent and diligent people have been working on that for ages, they just rely on juvenile people voting them into power.
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#216George Orwell really never could have imagined that people would flock to purchase or otherwise use the methods of their own surveillance. (smart phones, social media, smart cameras, modern cars, etc) I think it paints government surveillance policies in something of a different light. There is definitely a constituency which believes that the evil central government is pushing for surveillance in a purely unilateral…
>government surveillance policies are more popular then some folks in HN circles would suspect. 2 things. 1. Few people understand most surveillance legislation, including journalists. 2. Most governments use thought terminating cliches involving child safety to force compliance on the middle set of people who dont like surveillance and understand a minimum amount of what the legislation does. These points leave anti…
I think this is correct, but buying something like a Ring camera is 100% voluntary. And buying a smartphone _used_ to be 100% voluntary, and people couldn't get enough of them. People aren't ignorant about privacy, they don't even care about it. Try telling your friends you turn bluetooth off on your phone and don't have a data plan for it. They'll think you're very, very weird. They do not care about privacy whatsoever.
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#217This is the logical conclusion to the state of irrational fear that Americans perpetually live in, that causes them to feel they need 24/7 surveillance of their homes, no matter the consequences.
Unfortunately this is contagious. During the last election cycle in Sweden the Moderate party (third-largest in parliament, and part of the government) literally ran ads like "More cameras on our streets for safety"
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> When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, WiFi routers can’t tell you where people are in the house. The routers don’t even know their own location within the house. All of those papers you see on the topic have extensive additional information being put into their models. The routers don’t magically know the layout of your house. At most, a W…
So combine it with a plan made from a social media posting.
Or a robotic vacuum. Or one of the other thousand houses with the same layout in the neighborhood
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#219Having tried to do this already to no avail, does anyone know if as an owner of one of these Ring devices if it's possible to take it offline and handle everything locally?
I'm usually against these types of "smart" devices, but only bought it because my house got burgled as a student (whilst I was asleep!), so I got pretty shaken up and got the cheapest thing I could find. Currently, I do have it connected to a local HA instance, but I'm pretty sure that relies on Ring's online services to access it, unless I'm mistaken.
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And nurses have even a more dangerous job. I'm not convinced that being a cop is such a tough job. Most of it is sitting in your car waiting for speeders, or to warn traffic about road construction, or driving around looking for something unusual happening. US courts have determined they don't even have a duty to risk their own lives to save civilians. Kinda the entire purpose of their job's existence, removed. There…
just to make this explicit, protecting civilians has never been the purpose of modern police forces. they were developed to put down rebellions/catch slaves/protect rich people's property
Just to make this explicit, you are incorrect.
There are plenty of instances where you would be correct, such as the origin of police forces in the American South (which were initially slave patrols), but that doesn't mean you are correct in all instances.
I'm not sure what joy you derive from spreading misinformation, but you should probably reconsider it.