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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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That is a really really strange thing to care so much about

"Is this company going to waste my time?" is not a strange question.

First you are getting the paid so again it is a very odd thing to care about and second how does windows and Linux waste your time?

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

I'm not really following through your reasoning. How is breaking the usefulness helping the revenue stream?

Assuming you're an engineer, have you thought about what handing over a "window" from one computer to another actually entails? CRIU can do checkpoint/restore at container/process level - but you actually want it to run on both, no? So you need to split off just the I/O, but at the OS-level per window.

Apple has been doing a lot of work in this direction and they have stuff that actually work (like video calls and to some extent windows. These are processes running on different OS-es with a matrix of hundreds of devices.

It's not something you vibe code over the weekend.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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"Is this company going to waste my time?" is not a strange question.

First you are getting the paid so again it is a very odd thing to care about and second how does windows and Linux waste your time?

> First you are getting the paid…

Even billionaires get burnout.

> how does windows and Linux waste your time?

Windows is deep down the enshittification curve.

My Linux-using coworkers seem to spend a lot of time wiping things and switching distros. I'm very happy with it for servers, but not for desktop.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Meta's glasses are "normal sized" because they don't even attempt to do what headsets do. To think one will replace the other misunderstands both.

Can you be specific? You think they can't cram in enough cameras and a lidar? The see through display is the elephant in the room and it's actually progressing.

Um, okay. Specifically, glasses don't try to do any kind of gaze tracking, gesture recognition, spacial awareness, any kind of 3d, depth, or immersion.

You could add more cameras and lidar for depth, yes, but then you'd also need a display for the other eye, and you still wouldn't be able to do immersion because your displays are transparent and have a tiny FOV, and you're also not doing passthrough, so why do you need the cameras again? And so on.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

from this demo video, it looks like you could surround yourself with vim windows, terminals, and so on?

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/videos/2025/autoplay/10/apple...

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

from this demo video, it looks like you could surround yourself with vim windows, terminals, and so on? https://www.apple.com/newsroom/videos/2025/autoplay/10/apple...

Within the bounds of that big ol 8k window, yes, but the applications themselves can't be extracted and positioned separately.

My workaround for this is using applications that work comfortably in a safari window (like vscode) and you can have as many safari windows free floating as you want

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

I'm not really following through your reasoning. How is breaking the usefulness helping the revenue stream? Assuming you're an engineer, have you thought about what handing over a "window" from one computer to another actually entails? CRIU can do checkpoint/restore at container/process level - but you actually want it to run on both, no? So you need to split off just the I/O, but at the OS-level per window. Apple ha…

This stuff has been solved ages ago on Unix.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Similar. I use this as a traveling external monitor. I have a face that works well without the face seal and with the old dual band: Counter weighted with the back of my head in a way that floats the headset over my nose/face. Going back to squeezing this onto my face like the old knit band seems like it would go backwards in comfort. How can anyone have this pressed against their face for 8+ hours?

The best is to have a pulley system above your head that removes the weight of it from above. I’d like to see someone implement this via a backpack / should strap for mobile use.

"The Vision Pro Strangulator 5000"
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