Live data from Hacker News

No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

idiallo.com

211–220 of 464 posts

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#211
The OTA car updates, the OS's doing stuff we don't want, the ads on phones and websites, buying something on a new website knowing you're immediately put on an email list that you'll immediately unsubscribe from...

It's tough being a user.

Imagine being a non-tech savvy one who just has to wade through all that and doesn't know how to block it.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time…

Davinci Resolve has official support for Linux

Oh wow, thanks for this. I had filed it under "Windows and Mac only" in my head for some reason. Now I see that it was originally Linux only!?

Amazing that this free-to-download application supports Linux when Adobe doesn't. Or maybe not so amazing given their different approaches.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It enables in non-consensual manners, break apps and games(because paths change and APIs work differently), clings onto your files even if you tried to save them from the OneDrive folder, and throws a tantrum and irreversibly delete your files if you dare unlink the PC and disable it . I don't know why they commit to especially the last part. To me, it feels like that is why Microsoft's Windows efforts are getting a…

I think it's the curse of windows being attached to a tech company, and a tech company seems to want to keep pursuing cool things™ instead of boring maintenance on a utility. Over the years lots of little extra non-essential functionality has crept into windows to where you could almost compare it with a lightweight linux distro, or that it's hard to draw the line where the OS ends, and then you're getting into terri…

> cool things™ instead of boring maintenance on a utilit

You can't re-sell a boring utility every one/two/three years.

Nobody wants it - not the top management (bonuses for the revenue growth), nor the middle management (bonuses for the succesful new projects), nor the guys who implements the things (reconginition for the new projects).

Or talking simpler - KPI. And there is no 'we improved the stability for 0.0000002% of clients' indicator along with 'customers are happy with the thing we sold them in 2017'.

And don't forget what it was some fruit company what even wasn't in the corporate which made it fashionable to have a 'totes new and refreshing experience (along with a hefty price tag)' every year or two.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#214
post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been there - I help a lot of older folks with their business computers. The desire to make Windows an appliance falls flat when older PCs get on that auto-update treadmill. For example, Windows now comes OEM with Bitlocker drive encryption enabled. Good in theory - when you toss/donate/sell your old PC, normies don't think about their personal lives and banking details being available, so that's good. However, they a…

The fact that it's 2025 and there's no legitimate way to run a live USB with Windows baffles me. In the case of my mom's computer rescue, as far as I can tell, literally the only legal way to recover my mom's Windows NTFS drive contents was to use Linux . I had to use Linux to fix Microsoft's incompetence. I am quite confident that my mom would mostly be fine with Linux Mint on this computer; 99% of what she does on…

Yeah, Proton and Wine seem perfect for gaming, but I have never seen someone get Office right. That might be an audience difference or perhaps MS deliberately frustrates that attempt.

You could try 11 IOT LTSC[1] which is super-stripped down like an appliance. Set a few GPOs, get her files synced, set remote access. You could even do something like DeepFreeze if she's prone to clicking on the wrong thing. Restricting her to running Chrome and Office with Applocker is a possibility for her safety - I have literally interrupted scammers "from Microsoft" on the phone with the elderly and naive.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-...

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, the Google Drive for Desktop app was extremely reliable when Google was managing the files. Then when macOS provided native support for cloud filesystems, it migrated to that. And it's been a complete mess. Uploads often don't get triggered until you restart the system, exactly what you're describing. I'm pretty sure they're Apple macOS bugs, not Google ones. Because those kinds of bugs are constant across…

> when macOS provided native support for cloud filesystems When was that? I haven't regularly used a Mac in a good four years. At the time I had the Google Drive app with a business subscription, and I don't think there was any other option. It was terrible, to the point I completely gave up on it. Just like the other poster says, it would say, "I'm all synced up", but only half my files would be synced. I'd need to…

May 2022:

https://support.google.com/a/answer/13067413

Apple calls it File Provider.

I've been using the Google Drive for Desktop file streaming version since it launched in 2017 (file streaming, not exactly sync), I think it was originally called Google DriveFS, and never had any problems until they switched to Apple's File Provider.

There's a different Drive app that only did sync, I think that's what you're talking about. It's much older. Then they got merged into the current one.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#216
post #40

Since no one mentioned how to actually dismiss the notification forever: OneDrive is treated as a normal app that is installed by default, you can actually just uninstall it through Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

I've started using Tiny11 on all my setups, then running DeBloat afterwards. This removes every piece of crapware* and none of them seem to try to reinstall on update (so far, fingers crossed). https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2024/01/08/the-complete-tiny1... https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat * be warned, this also removes Edge, so you have to grab your own browser installer of choice

I use Brave browser (a Chromium fork) on my old Win10 PC, and it is fast and stable even with tons of tabs/site open. One can disable its unnecessary features (VPN, Brave Rewards, etc).

Please note that Brave browser in mobile these days gives problems for some websites like Reddit.com, etc. Same sites open fine with Edge (another Chromium fork) and Firefox (Gecko engine).

I hate Chrome & Edge and their nasty of creating multiple instances and auto-starting and running in background even when I am not using the browser.

If I recall right, Chrome uses to have an nasty memory leakage issue so it will keep chugging for more memory even if not in active use.

Firefox uses to be sluggish, but it is better these days, and its extensions/plugins support (especially on Android!) is necessary to block ads & trackers (via uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger extension) is highly useful and necessary.

I prefer Brave for PC and Firefox for Android.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#217
post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolutely seen them reinstall components like that, force their AV back on, force Windows Update back on, etc. It's probably actually good imo for the users I've seen, but admittedly "computer says no" is infuriating if you're sure of what you want. Try using Group Policy to disable it. I think Applocker is on Win 11 Pro now - if it is, you can block the execution of whatever programs and DLLs you want. I've…

Well, I will at least throw in the Group Policy tweak when I have the chance. Thanks for the tip.

There is almost certainly a registry key you can set as well. 5 ways to do something, none documented officially.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#218
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS is just as aggressive about turning on icloud as windows is with it's crap.

When Apple forces users to use an online account to access their local Mac, and disables their OS unless they turn on iCloud on their Mac -- then you can claim equivalence between them.

the fact that you have to have an apple account to do all kinds of basic developer tasks (installing Xcode / Xcode command line tools, which are needed for lots of stuff last time I checked (a few years ago?)) is evidence that they suck also. But not nearly as bad as Microsoft who are actively scum from the moment you first turn the computer on.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#219

Hope the PM in charge with the scammy copy designed to trick people into turning this on is happy with the boost in free users falling for it. My dad turned it on not knowing what it meant and it completely messed up his workflows and now I have to figure out how to safely disable it and move his files back. I will remember Microsoft causing this problem for him every time I think of or get asked if someone should us…

HN seems to think PMs have a lot more power at Microsoft or large corps than they actually do. I assure you, a bunch of this stuff just comes top down because some VP's million dollar bonus rides on it.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#220
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't recommend Mint. Better use something with recent KDE Plasma and recent kernel and Mesa for best Wayland experience. Especially speaking of playing games, I periodically see newcomer Linux gamers hitting problems due to Mint being outdated and not having good Wayland support. Especially for any kind of recent hardware.

For me it's the exact opposite, I had problems with Steam games on Wayland and I switched back to X11.

You probably used Nvidia and some outdated distro with a bad DE on top. Not something you should be using. Using X11 is DOA anyway, so you can figure out what was wrong in your case and use better options.
Post reply on HN