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Re: ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy on phones

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Being deported isn't legally deprivation of "life, liberty, or property." Deportation is not a punishment and is entirely avoidable in 99% of cases: don't overstay or enter illegally.

How is it not deprivation of liberty to be forcibly removed from where you are and not allowed to return?

Because you didn't have the legal right to remain there in the first place?

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I'm sorry, but you didn't make a case for bundling together and why finer grain control is would not make sense. I have no doubt that the problems you guys solve are incredibly complex. There is no question about that. But does bundling really make sense? I'm not sure why being subject to a 2G downgrade attack is relevant to my threat model including message attachments or FaceTime. For example, going to a concert, p…

Also security engineer here. You're thinking too small and in the wrong direction. You're not protecting against 2G downgrade attacks, you're protecting against an attacker who has a whole library of things to try on you to see what works. Lockdown mode is intended to protect against sophisticated actors, the kind who will buy 0days for six or seven figures, roll it into a new version of their product and sell it to…

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Re: ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy on phones

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By everyone thinking you can get 100% coverage across the Great Basin Desert? Yes. Yes I do think that the population density of Europe leads them to think everything is closer and easier than it is. That one desert, of many, is about 190,000 miles in size. That's half the size of the whole of France. Are you really saying covering that, with 100% coverage, with no dead spots at all, is a reasonable task to undertake…

> Are you really saying covering that, with 100% coverage, with no dead spots at all, is a reasonable task to undertake? Well, do people live in this desert? If not, then I wouldn't say that's reasonable. But then I don't feel like your replies here are reasonable either and pretty disingenuous overall, so maybe lets just leave it at that, and you can continue believe your country is much bigger than it is.

  > Well, do people live in this desert? If not, then I wouldn't say that's reasonable.
It stretches from Reno Nevada to Salt Lake City Utah. It also includes Las Vegas, Ogden Utah, and Provo Utah. But there are plenty of small cities in between. If you drove on the I-80 from Reno to SLC you'd pass through Fernley (23k people), Lovelock (2k), Imlay (200), Winnemucca (8.5k), Carlin (2.4k), Elko (21k), Wells (1.3k), Oasis (34), West Wendover (4.5k), and a few dozen more cities comparable to Imlay or Oasis as well as just as many ghost towns. That drive would take over 7hrs and is over 800km long.

This is not an uncommon setting in the US either. I'm sure there's a few unique paths like this in Europe, but honestly, are there that many? I once drove the majority of the US (I started in The South, so think 24 -> 70 -> 29 -> 80 -> 29 -> 90) and despite driving across almost all of America the biggest city I drove through was St Louis, which doesn't even have 300k people. I think if you counted all the people that were <5km distance from me over the subsequent several days and several thousand kilometers I doubt the number would add up to my stop in St Louis and would only have happened because I went through Sioux Falls (~200k at the time).

Re: ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy on phones

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> much easier for Obama to do it because there were not throngs of protesters trying to stop his ICE officers Yes there were [1][2]. New York City Council members were arrested [3]. Obama's ICE was simply more focussed on detaining and deterring illegal immigrants because immigration was a political liability for him. For Trump, efficiacy isn't as important as messaging. [1] https://www.voanews.com/a/barack-obama-imm…

Assumed political liability.

At the time, sure. With the benefit of hindsight, one of Democrats’ strategic fuckups over the last decade was forgetting that it is one.

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Obama was quite strict about it and deported tons of illegals. An arrest isn't a violent kidnapping. Being arrested by the feds for breaking the law has usually been a fairly unpleasant ordeal. Most Americans support the idea of deporting people who break our immigration laws, thusly cutting in line while millions of others patiently wait. This really doesn't have to be an emotional issue. Very few Americans support…

> Obama was quite strict about it and deported tons of illegals. An arrest isn't a violent kidnapping. Being arrested by the feds for breaking the law has usually been a fairly unpleasant ordeal. Obama prioritized deportation of people convicted of serious crimes and recent arrivals after they got their day in court. He did not call Mexicans rapists. The admin did not arrest US citizens. Being arrested by the feds ev…

Lmao

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ICE is just particularly egregious example. But a lot of Federal agents on the ground are participating in Midway Blitz.

You're missing the point. No agency should be behaving this way over a paperwork crime.

I voted for it. Happy that rational Americans are now getting what we want despite the best efforts of those with poor judgment, who should never speak on policy.

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You're missing the point. No agency should be behaving this way over a paperwork crime.

It's not even a crime. It's an administrative infraction.

Majority of Americans want immigration law enforced. Democracy worked last November.

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Might help if you specify which views you don't share? The fact that slavery etc was legal or that they were wrong or that citizens should oppose them?

It was terrible that the Democrats opposed abolishing slavery.

Re: ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy on phones

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If you're running an Android phone open settings > Network & Internet > Internet > click on your network (e.g. Google Fi) > turn on 2G network protection (at the bottom). Alternatively: Security & privacy > Advanced Protection > Device protection. That does other stuff too though I'm not aware of a way to do this on iPhones... I'm not an expert, but my understanding is that many of these attacks work by performing 2G…

Better way to protect yourself is to get rid of Android's Google Play services.

Install a mod like GrapheneOS or LineageOS and use F-droid to get your apps.

Install Molly, the FOSS Signal client.

Don't use WhatsApp, don't use Telegram, don't use Meta apps, don't use TikTok, don't use Snapchat.

Install EFFs Rayhunter App.

Install a Bluetooth beacon tracker protection app like AirGuard.

Use a firewall app like NetGuard to protect leaking traffic.

Always remember, a device has an IMEI associated with its modem, there is no point to switch SIM cards if they're tracking you. Phones with no removable battery are always on, even when they're off, and will react to Silent SMS (class 0) that are stealthy pings that can track you. Especially iOS devices are always trackable, even in Airplane mode or when they're turned "off".

Buy used hardware from eBay, check LineageOS wiki for compatibility.

Stay safe.

Re: ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy on phones

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> can I ask why? Simply put, Americans gave Republicans a popular mandate to reduce illegal immigration. Much of this was economic: illegal immigrants dilute the labour force. Some, particularly among Latin Americans, rose from perceived injustice: it’s frustrating to go through the American immigration process only to see someone who skipped it live a similar life. Some, e.g. those focused on crime, were just racist…

> Much of this was economic: illegal immigrants dilute the labour force. Then why are the farmers complaining about it? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-farm-groups-want-trump-s...

You’re asking why massive buyers of labour want cheaper labour?
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