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Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Funnily enough, in Australia a lot of those "mum and pop" consultancies (the successful ones at least) are getting slurped up by the likes of Cognizant and co.

This may be more related to buying contacts than buying expertise.

Yeah, because there's no IP, the MBAs don't see any "company" to buy. As a small consultancy owner, you're basically hoping you can sell the contracts when you're ready to retire.

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I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

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Source: tons of references at end https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a5...

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"GenAI done right" comes across like the famously elusive "agile done properly" and "safe C". If everyone is holding it wrong, are they?

Most implementations of GenAI are done correctly from what I’ve seen. A huge amount of production code is written by AI, and I use it every day because it’s fast and significantly improves my productivity.

Fast and productive is very different than good. I'd probably agree with a description of AI code as the fast food of code, but I certainly wouldn't call Taco Bell "better" if the wedding caterer showed up with it.

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For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, th…

I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

It already is a life/death epidemic. An extremely similar automated decision making scandal to the one OP is referring to led to people's deaths: https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/2030-people-hav....

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https://archive.ph/0fi0K Source: tons of references at end https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a5...

I'm not a fan of "consultants" at all. In my experinance all they ever do is either muck things up by black boxing the thing they were paid to do. Or more often simply leave a huge list of "you should do this" that will be $500k, and then leave.

What I've heard as a counter to their uselessness is that they function as a sort of legal corporate espionage. You should do this because my other customer that I cant name but I'll just call Mr.Faang is also doing that.

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Most implementations of GenAI are done correctly from what I’ve seen. A huge amount of production code is written by AI, and I use it every day because it’s fast and significantly improves my productivity.

Fast and productive is very different than good . I'd probably agree with a description of AI code as the fast food of code, but I certainly wouldn't call Taco Bell "better" if the wedding caterer showed up with it.

I think you're looking for lexical gaps where there are none. If you're not using LLM's while coding, you're behind the industry. While GenAI may be overhyped, it's not a fad, and if you don't incorporate it into your (what I assume is a) software based job you're going to fall behind your coworkers. I can't list every positive adjective here but it's an incredibly useful tool which everyone should be using.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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https://archive.ph/0fi0K Source: tons of references at end https://medium.com/@trendguardian/why-we-are-dispensable-7a5...

I'm not a fan of "consultants" at all. In my experinance all they ever do is either muck things up by black boxing the thing they were paid to do. Or more often simply leave a huge list of "you should do this" that will be $500k, and then leave. What I've heard as a counter to their uselessness is that they function as a sort of legal corporate espionage. You should do this because my other customer that I cant name…

You missed their primary purpose: To provide cover for whatever half-assed idea an exec came up with. If the CEO of my automobile company wakes up one morning with the zany idea to cut costs by only including 3 wheels with the purchase of a car, if he just goes ahead and does it, the investors will call for his head when customers stop buying our cars and instead purchase our four-wheeled compeitors. But if our CEO hires Deloitte, they'll make a bunch of reports and excel sheets that show why 3 wheels are the best idea ever. If he wanted to add an extra wheel, there'd be a bunch of reports on the superiority of 5 tires. If he decides to switch back, hire the consultants, they'll dutifully report on how 4 tires was the right amount all along. It's all just an accountability shell game.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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why was the Albanese changed from the title?

Because it's confusing most likely. As others have pointed out:

> Anthony _Albanese_ is the name of the current PM of Australia

Which is probably why this Australian publication calls it the 'Albanese Government'. Not to be confused with the government of Albania.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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For a bit of background, this report concerned a problematic IT system that was incorrectly sending life-ruining fines to people for not meeting their requirements to apply for so many jobs, accept jobs, etc. whilst on government assistance. The fines came in the form of a judgment debt so people would literally have a debt bailiff show up and start carting their property away. Due to a seriously flawed IT system, th…

I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

>The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people.

You end up consulting at Deloitte when you can't get into MBB, any of the smaller boutique firms, strategy at big corporations etc. Accountants are an exception but they're only there to pad their resume before exiting to corporate in-house finance roles that lead to CFO positions.

Deloitte is to outsourced business consulting what Infosys is to outsourced software development.

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