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Post by bigyabai »

hahayup wrote: post #204
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> There's also CAD software, many DAWs. Assertions like this are what kill the iPad. Yes, DAWs "exist" but can only load the shitty AUs that Apple supports on the App Store. Professional plugins like Spectrasonics or U-He won't run on the iPad, only the Mac. CAD software "runs" but only supports the most basic parametric modeling. You're going to get your Macbook or Wintel machine to run your engineering workloads if…

It's such a shame that the iPad has these limitations. It's such an incredible device–lightweight, very well designed, incredible screen, great speakers, etc. I really do feel that if Apple sold a MacBook in the style of a Surface Book: iPad tablet running MacOS which could dock to a keyboard and trackpad with a potential performance boost (graphics card, storage, whatever), that it would be my dream device.

All I want is to put Linux on it. I already own copies of Bitwig et. al, if the iPad Mini didn't lock me into a terrible operating system then I might want to own one. But I'm not spending $300 for the "privilege" of dealing with iPadOS.

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Post by detourdog »

ethanwillis wrote: post #184
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I have Tahoe and it’s just as good at being a desktop os as any of the previous os’s. Not sure what you’re referring to.

There have been lots of complaints all over the place that contradict your experience. One article that talks about it: https://osxdaily.com/2025/09/19/why-im-holding-off-on-upgrad... For less discerning users maybe the rough edges aren't that noticeable. But the point of choosing Apple products is you should be a discerning consumer.

This a pretty insulting comment. I’m sure ther is better word then discerning.

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Post by WillAdams »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #40
doctoboggan wrote: post #29

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> The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting What rumors have you seen? Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. Is there more evidence this is happening? If anything, Apple's recent moves to "macify" iPadOS indicate their strategy is to tempt people over into the locked down ecosystem, rather than bring the (more) open macOS to the iPad.

Current rumors point to the M6 generation of MBPs being a significant redesign and featuring an OLED touch panel screen. I don't understand the appeal, even a little bit. Reaching up to touch the screen is awkward, and every large touchpanel I've used has had to trade off antiglare coating effectiveness to accomodate oleophobic coating. For me, this would be an objective downgrade — the touch capability would never g…

It's convenient, and it also makes usage of a stylus far easier.

FWIW, I often rotate my Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 so that the screen is in portrait mode, then hold the laptop as if it's a book and use a stylus and touch on the display with my right hand, and operate the keyboard for modifiers/shortcuts with my left, or open it flat on a lapdesk.

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Post by monkmartinez »

lanza wrote: post #74
AlphaAndOmega0 wrote: post #16

I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..

> I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. Literally everything you do gets the full power of the chips. They finish tasks faster using less power than previous chips. They can then use smaller batteries and thinner devices. A higher ceiling on performance is only one aspect of an upgraded CPU. A lower floor on energy consumed per task is…

"Literally everything" doesn't amount to much if I can't actually control the stupid thing.

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Post by astrange »

MangoToupe wrote: post #83
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> On the desktop front I think AMD has been killing it but both companies need to start from scratch for laptops. IMO Apple is killing it with the mac mini too. Obviously not if you're gaming (that has a lot to do with the OS though), but if you're OK with the OS, it's a powerhouse for the size, noise, and energy required.

I've been running a Mac mini as a gaming machine for years; an egpu is much cheaper than building a whole new desktop tower.

Apple Silicon Macs don't support eGPUs. (At the moment anyway.)

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Post by astrange »

FootballMuse wrote: post #108
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M4 23884 365 29861 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M4+10+Core&id... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+AI+9+365&...

Passmark is an outdated benchmark not well optimized for ARM. Even so the single thread marks are 3864 (AI365) vs 4550 (M4) OTOH, Geekbench correlates (0.99) with SPEC standards, the industry standard in CPU benchmark and what enterprise companies such as AWS use to judge a CPU performance. https://medium.com/silicon-reimagined/performance-delivered-...

Hmm, why would you need to optimize a benchmark for something? Generally it's the other way round.

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Post by astrange »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #31
ksec wrote: post #26

iPad M5 vs M4 [1], this is coming from leaked unbox video of M5 iPad Pro. So it should be legit. Single-Core Score 4133 3748 110.3% Multi-Core Score 15437 13324 115.9% Same maximum clock speed. So assuming no special thermals solution on the new iPad Pro such as vapour chamber. This is 10% pure IPC improvements although the M5 has 6MB L2 Cache. 2MB higher than M4. Not shown here are the E-Core performance. Which if w…

Frankly it’s borderline unethical that they offered 8gb models past like…M1. 12gb isn’t enough IMO for anyone who wants a machine that will last but at least it’s a step in the right direction. My friend with an M3 MacBook was complaining about the speed. I told them that was ridiculous and they must be doing something incredibly intensive. I came and took a look at it - I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God…

It should not have been noticeably slow no matter what you did. It'd run out of memory with enough tabs of course.

The fastest way to get more memory is an ad blocker.

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Post by liuliu »

sroussey wrote: post #162
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No, iPad Pro won't be faster than 4090s or 4070s (or even 5% of the speed of 4090). But newer chips might contain Neural Accelerator to close the gap a little bit (i.e. 10%??). (I maintain https://apps.apple.com/us/app/draw-things-ai-generation/id64... )

What improvements did the A19 Pro provide for Draw Things?

https://releases.drawthings.ai/p/iphone-17-pro-doubles-ai-pe...

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Post by astrange »

dagmx wrote: post #148
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I'm also curious about this. And, even moreso - did apple just start designing chips from scratch or did they buy someone who already had some cutting edge technology? Its hard to believe that they're beating everyone just out of nowhere...

It’s not out of nowhere. It’s just that people didn’t pay attention to their mobile chips. But Anandtech had articles as far back as the A12 7 years ago where it was competing with the intel chips of the era A secondhand link because anandtech is restructured now unfortunately https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/05/apples-a12-bionic...

> because anandtech is restructured now unfortunately

…because he left to work on the chips.

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Post by jackothy »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #122
stego-tech wrote: post #72

Damn impressive if true, but I’ll be honest, I still don’t feel the need to replace my M1 iPad Pro or my M1 Pro Macbook Pro. They’re both more than amazing for my use cases - though if Apple suddenly took gaming seriously, like extending Rosetta to act as a translation layer for Windows games a la Proton, I’d gladly throw down for an M5 Ultra when it’s released.

> though if Apple suddenly took gaming seriously, like extending Rosetta to act as a translation layer for Windows games a la Proton, I’d gladly throw down for an M5 Ultra when it’s released No joke, if I could run my Steam library on my phone, I'd probably buy a new phone every year (and might need to, given what the thermals and rapid charge/discharge cycles would do to battery longevity). But Apple's current strat…

The problem is they don't "let the developers do the work themselves"

If only the platform was open enough that developers had real access, Apple might get away with like you say not providing first party support for gaming.

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