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Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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Why can youtube not just give a micropayments backed API? Just charge a few cents per video download and be done with it.

They do. It's called YouTube Premium.

It's not though. You can't download an mp4 to use however you wish with YouTube Premium. And definitely not via an API.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to compete with YT you need to basically build AWS S3 in your own data centers. You'd have to find a way to make your service run cheaper than google can if you wanted to survive. You'd have to get very scrappy and risky. I'd start with questions like: how many 9s of durability do we actually need here? Could we risk it until the model is proven? What are the consequences for losing cat videos and any% sp…

Games Done Quick has raised 10s of millions for charity. I suspect they could raise a few thousand for a few dozen TB of nvme storage if they wanted to host a speedrun archive.

YouTube get 700,000 hours of video uploaded every day. That's 4.3 PB added per day. You may need more than a few dozen TB... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskProgramming/comments/vueyb9/how_...

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

#213

The length Youtube have gone to make it impossible to download videos. At the same time, Tiktok allows anyone to download a video with just right click

With the recent forced buy of TikTok with Rupert, Larry and co, I doubt that's going to be a thing for much longer; they will want to make money some how.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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post #183

Really feels like the somewhat open nature of yt is running on borrowed time

First you spend money to create something people really want and build a big user base.

Then you open it up to third party businesses and get them tied to your platform, making money off your users.

Once locked in you turn the screws on the businesses to extract as much money from them as possible.

Finally you turn the screws on the users to extract every last bit of value from the platform before it withers and fades into irrelevance.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

#216

Days of just getting data off the web are coming to an end as everything requires a full browser running thousands of lines of obfuscated js code now. So instead of a website giving me that 1kb json that could be cached now I start a full browser stack and transmit 10 megabytes through 100 requests, messing up your analytics and security profile and everyone's a loser. Yay.

> Days of just getting data off the web are coming to an end

All thanks to great ideas like downloading the whole internet and feeding it into slop-producing machines fueling global warming in an attempt to make said internet obsolete and prop up an industry bubble.

The future of the internet is, at best, bleak. Forget about openness. Paywalls, authwalls, captchas and verification cans are here to stay.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

#217

Days of just getting data off the web are coming to an end as everything requires a full browser running thousands of lines of obfuscated js code now. So instead of a website giving me that 1kb json that could be cached now I start a full browser stack and transmit 10 megabytes through 100 requests, messing up your analytics and security profile and everyone's a loser. Yay.

On the bright side, that opens an opportunity for 10,000 companies whose only activity is scraping 10MB worth of garbage and providing a sane API for it. Luckily all that is becoming a non-issue, as most content on these websites isn't worth scraping anymore.

*and whose only customers are using it for AI training

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

#218

Days of just getting data off the web are coming to an end as everything requires a full browser running thousands of lines of obfuscated js code now. So instead of a website giving me that 1kb json that could be cached now I start a full browser stack and transmit 10 megabytes through 100 requests, messing up your analytics and security profile and everyone's a loser. Yay.

And it's all to sell more ads.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

#219

Days of just getting data off the web are coming to an end as everything requires a full browser running thousands of lines of obfuscated js code now. So instead of a website giving me that 1kb json that could be cached now I start a full browser stack and transmit 10 megabytes through 100 requests, messing up your analytics and security profile and everyone's a loser. Yay.

Do you know what Accelerate means? I want them to go overboard. I want BigTech to go nuts on this stuff. I want broken systems and nonsense. Because that’s the only way we’re going to get anything better.

Accelerationism is a dead-end theory with major holes in its core. Or I should say, "their" core, because there's a million distant and mutually-incompatible varieties. Everyone likes to say "gosh, things are awful, it MUST end in collapse, and after the collapse everyone will see things MY way." They can't all be right. And yet, all of them with their varied ideas still think it'll be a good idea to actively push to make things worse in order to bring on the collapse more quickly.

It doesn't work. There aren't any collapses like that to be had. Big change happens incrementally, a bit of refactoring and a few band-aids at a time, and pushing to make things worse doesn't help.

Re: Yt-dlp: Upcoming new requirements for YouTube downloads

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post #9

I’m a paying YouTube premium subscriber. Last weekend, I wanted to download something so I can watch it on my way in the train. The app got stuck at “waiting for download..” on my iPad. Same on iPhone. Restart did not work. I gave up after an hour (30 mins hands on trying stuff, 30 mins waiting for it to fix itself). Downloaded the video using yt-dlp, transferred it to my USB c flash drive, and watched it from that.…

ReVanced and other alternatives exist. So long as they are broadcasting media to the public without an explicit login system, so as to take advantage of public access for exposure, it will remain perfectly legitimate and ethical to access the content through whatever browser or software you want. After they blitzed me with ads and started arbitrarily changing features and degrading the experience, I stopped paying th…

the problem is, you cannot be sure what Google does if they catch you violating their ToS. They have killed off entire google accounts for YT copyright strikes with no recourse.
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