Surprised by the amount of mentions of ECMAScript here. It’s the worst possible name to me.
It won't be called anything other than EcmaScript because there are already millions of references to that name.
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It's PR. First the petition and now this fundraiser. Sorry but it feels more like a stunt than anything sincere otherwise they would front the money. They certainly have the funds for it.
Getting into a legal battle with oracle would be an incredibly expensive PR effort, especially as they filed and started the process without donations. $200k is absolutely not going to come close to covering their legal fees possibly in any scenario but definitely if Oracle tries to drag out the process.
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#213I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…
This is a form of marketing.
This is a form of marketing.
As is the existence of Hacker News.
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Indeed. I once had a former friend say something to the effect of "I wish there were a candidate who had a healthy balance of libertarian values and compassion". I asked him how he reconciles those to diametrically-opposed concepts and he grumbled and we're no longer friends.
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#215Can we do ZFS next?
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#216I've kind of become numb to the annoying JavaScript trademark situation. But yeah, it's bonkers. I agree, let's do something. So, if this fails, let's rename JavaScript to WebScript or BrowserScript or something. Nobody can say those aren't generic. And remember, the laughably unpronounceable, caps-lock-enabled, comedy gold that was "ECMAscript" almost caught on for a hot minute. (Can you believe it? We were this close to walking the halls of our big techs and startups and mumbling about "egg-muh-script".) The biggest hurdle will be getting Google to change the name. Google, famously, carefully avoids interacting with the public. I don't know what kind of infohazard they are afraid of contacting from us, but we have to break through that barrier somehow. We may have to resort to standing on the side of the road on the 101 with a sign that says "No more war! Save the dolphins! Accept the JavaScript(TM)-to-WebScript rename now!".
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>I think the order here is reversed: If you ask the public for money, it's fair to perform a public service. If you just do something you wanted to do anyways, and probably would have done anyways, then it might be viewed as less-than-charitable to ask others for money to help you achieve your goal for yourself (even if other people might benefit somewhat too). Especially when you are far richer (like 100+ times rich…
If the $200k were going towards such a geek, or towards maintaining code that everyone uses, that'd be better. As it stands, the money is going to lawyers, who will argue over the right to utter the word "javascript" in a commercial context (rather than, say, "JS"). So zero coding or maintenance.
Programming Geeks cannot argue in court. Only lawyers can. So the money is going to the right place ?
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#218The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.
Why not “JS”? Then we can all take sides in a religious war on whether it’s pronounced jay-ess, jayce, juss, or jess?
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Indeed. I once had a former friend say something to the effect of "I wish there were a candidate who had a healthy balance of libertarian values and compassion". I asked him how he reconciles those to diametrically-opposed concepts and he grumbled and we're no longer friends.
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#220The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.
Sure, let me just rename all of my file extensions and parsers to .ws and then handle the collisions with websockets paths and then revert it all back to how it was before I touched anything
Sounds really like a development environment problem, I mean if you can't handle that your language suddenly changes it's name in a not backward compatible fashion, how do you ever stand a chance to handle leap seconds correctly?