DeepMind and OpenAI win gold at ICPC

Post by apstls » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 8:56 AM UTC

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Firstly, automobiles are really impressive. Second, with that out the way, these cars are not playing the same game as horses… first, and quite obviously they have massive amounts of horsepower, which is kind of like giving a team of horses… many more horses. But also cars have an absolutely massive fuel capacity. Petrol is such an efficient store of chemical energy compared to hay and cars can store gallons of it. I…

Yeah man, and it would be wild to publish an article titled "Ford Mustang and Honda Civic win gold in the 100 meter dash at the Olympics" if what happened was the companies drove their cars 100 meters and tweeted that they did it faster than the Olympians had run. Actually that's too generous, because the humans are given a time limit in ICPC, and there's no clear mapping to say how the LLM's compute should be limite…

Post by discreteevent » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 9:07 AM UTC

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the AI isn't malevolent (... yet) but the companies operating it certainly are they have no concept of consent they take anything and everything, regardless of copyright or license, with no compensation to the authors and then use it to directly compete with those they ripped off not to mention shoving their poor quality generated slop everywhere they can possibly manage, regardless of ethics, consent or potential co…

> but the companies operating it certainly are Which ones in particular? Is your belief all that are companies are inherently malevolent? If not why don't you start one that is not? What's stopping you?

Post by LunaSea » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 9:13 AM UTC

tgma wrote: post #27

ferguess_k wrote: post #25

I think in the future information will be more walled -- because AI companies are not paying anyone for that piece of information, and I encourage everyone to put their knowledge on their own website, and for each page, put up a few urls that humans won't be able to find (but can still click if he knows where to find), but can be crawled by AI, which link to pages containing falsified information (such as, oh the inf…

Why the AI hate? How is it different from sharing your knowledge with another individual or writing a book to share it? > AI companies are not paying anyone for that piece of information So? For the vast majority of human existence, paying for content was not a thing, just like paying for air isn't. The copyright model you are used to may just be too forced. Many countries have no moral qualms about "pirating" Window…

Post by LunaSea » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 9:19 AM UTC

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #2

So this year SotA models have gotten gold at IMO, IoI, ICPC and beat 9/10 humans in that atcoder thing that tested optimisation problems. Yet the most reposted headlines and rethoric is "wall this", "stangation that", "model regression", "winter", "bubble", doom etc.

Post by LunaSea » Thu, Sep 18, 2025, 9:48 AM UTC

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Is that true though? Having to pay some $200 a month for a max account of whatever kind doesn't seem to be cheaper to me at all?

When I say 10 times cheaper, I mean when comparing models of the same capabilities. The kind of performance you get now for a 200$ subscription, a year ago probably would have costed 2000$.