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Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?
Conspiracy theory: they want old people to die.
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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out
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1) If your wife was having a high risk pregnancy and couldn't get vaccinated, she really shouldn't have been working on the front lines during Covid, anyway. 2) Take a look in the mirror and try blaming the people who have made "getting a vaccine" a culture war political statement rather than something routine and uncontroversial. If vaccines were uncontroversial, medical exemptions from them would also be rare and u…
The vaccines neither stop you from contracting covid nor stop you from spreading it if you did contract it.
More generally why should anyone be forced to take any vaccine? The controversial idea here is thinking it’s okay to mandate someone else do something to their body.
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if you suspect that the cdc has been captured by big pharma, "and we don't care about cost of these recommended drugs" should pretty much seal the deal for you :)
Oh wow how the conspiracy theories change. There used to be fears of "death panels" controlling access to medical care when Clinton tried to propose universal health care. The CDC and FDA are about safety, not cost management. And they get significant complaints about how much they regulate pharma and are impediments to pharma for that! Now the conspiracy theorists of the other side seem to be having their day in the…
clear financial incentives are never conspiracy theories: always follow the money.
thinking that they are conspiracy theories? that's a conspiracy theorist.
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This is very different from recommending horse dewormer; if you can't tell the difference, I'm sorry.
When I'm in my doctor's office, and the doctor is saying "don't do that" it is quite hard to tell the difference.
Did you actually ask your doctor and receive that guidance, or is this purely a hypothetical?
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#215It’s insane to think that someday humanity will finally find a cure for cancer, and then after all this money and research and struggle people will just… choose not to use it.
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#217If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.
It is actually not straightforward to do. Safeway Pharmacy refused to actually give me the vaccine when I showed up saying I'm not in a group that's eligible. One Medical told me that it would be a $400/shot 3-shot regimen. I'll probably just travel to India some time to visit family and get Cervavac there instead of Gardasil here. It's about $20/shot.
What’s the procedure of getting Cervavac in india?
Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out
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1) If your wife was having a high risk pregnancy and couldn't get vaccinated, she really shouldn't have been working on the front lines during Covid, anyway. 2) Take a look in the mirror and try blaming the people who have made "getting a vaccine" a culture war political statement rather than something routine and uncontroversial. If vaccines were uncontroversial, medical exemptions from them would also be rare and u…
The vaccines neither stop you from contracting covid nor stop you from spreading it if you did contract it. More generally why should anyone be forced to take any vaccine? The controversial idea here is thinking it’s okay to mandate someone else do something to their body.
> The controversial idea here is thinking it’s okay to mandate someone else do something to their body.
Meanwhile you're trying to mandate exposing other people to covid because you don't want a vaccine.
Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out
#219If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.
I'm male and read about this exposure vector back in 2012 when it was only rolled out to 12 year old girls, with a further guideline that nobody over 26 should take it.
this was pre- antivaxxer anxiety, and just run of the mill 'is the government condoning sex' anxiety, and it was controversial for that reason alone
the issue was that if you've been exposed already then the vaccine doesn't work. they had a test for women that can prove they've been exposed or not, and most adults have. they don't have a test for men that can prove they've been exposed or not, and most adults have. At the time, they had also only considered males to be carriers, with no cancers themselves.
so for the US government to recommend a limited stock and get insurers on board, it was all based on probabilities of exposure and utility.
I was younger at the time, naturally, I paid $600 out of pocket to get it across 3 doses because I figured it was worse than that, or I could get some 'male ally' brownie points from women. I wasn't wealthy then but figured this experience couldn't be taken from me even if I went bankrupt.
Since then, they've further linked it to throat cancers in males, because of our mouth's contact with genitals, and insurers are told to cover it across all genders and up to mid 40s. that's not really much of a difference now though, since the checkpoint is basically the same group of people, 13 years later.
They're still assuming older people are not worth bothering with, due to likely exposure.
There is an amusing side of this if you are male and not vaccinated yet, since nobody can tell if you've been exposed still: keep your sexual relationships with younger women. lol. in case you needed an excuse - higher probability they're vaccinated.
Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out
#220If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.
I'm male and read about this exposure vector back in 2012 when it was only rolled out to 12 year old girls, with a further guideline that nobody over 26 should take it. this was pre- antivaxxer anxiety, and just run of the mill 'is the government condoning sex' anxiety, and it was controversial for that reason alone the issue was that if you've been exposed already then the vaccine doesn't work. they had a test for w…
The current recommended cutoff is 45 (well, pre the current US administration). So I think it was a question of we tested this at the time in these high risk age groups and we were still waiting on the results for other cohorts that were less important.