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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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actionfromafar wrote: post #189
bigyabai wrote: post #179

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> It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution. As long as the Dahiya doctrine persists, it won't be. But that's an Israeli problem - their disproportionate response has been exploited for years . Hamas is fine letting Israel commit as many war crimes as it takes to satisfy their leadership, it very clearly hasn't changed tactics in recent years. The cost to Israeli international credibility seems to be "worth…

America is pissing away its hegemony all on its own.

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vFunct wrote: post #204
Zhenya wrote: post #199

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The hostages have nothing to do with it... as much as Gazans have nothing to do with the Oct 7 massacre.

How would the hostage return the land? How would Gazan tell Hamas to stop?

Both answers are they can't

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dotancohen wrote: post #178
Atlas667 wrote: post #142

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In what way has Israel bullied members on the HR council?

I couldn't find any info on intimidation of HR council members. Nevertheless there were reports of the Israeli Mossad chief intimidating the ICC chief prosecutor at the time Fatou Bensouda. [1]

Her successor Karim Khan has also reported threats were made. He was later implicated in a sex scandal [2]. It would not surprise me if this was a Mossad sting operation.

[1] https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240528-israels-mossad-ch... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgeg738rvdeo

Edit: as the sibling comment states, the Americans have put in place sanctions against members of the HR council, along members of the ICC.

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Post by impossiblefork »

Zhenya wrote: post #199
therobots927 wrote: post #60

I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.

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But the Palestians and Hamas are distinct. There are even Christian Palestinians who are of course, since Hamas is so fundamentally Islamist, not at all represented by the group.

Palestinians who are not part of Hamas are third parties and when they are attacked, you can't tell them to ask Hamas to release hostages or do anything, because they have no more influence over Hamas than anybody else does.

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Post by churchill »

Zhenya wrote: post #199
therobots927 wrote: post #60

I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.

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Israel systematically abducts, tortures, and imprisons Palestinians old and young with reckless abandon. I hate to defend Hamas, but the goal of the abductions was to use them as a bargaining chip to get their own captives who'd been unjustly imprisoned in hellish conditions, for years on end.

Settlers in the West Bank openly murder Palestinians like animals, as well. The State of Israel is a violent terrorist state.

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Post by dotancohen »

DaveExeter wrote: post #103
eej71 wrote: post #84

It's always useful to balance these claims against their critics. Towards that end I offer up unwatch. https://unwatch.org/

Isn't that an Israeli "hasbara" site? The Israelis have admitted that they use the false cry of "antisemitism" to attack. "Calling it antisemitism - it’s a trick we always use." Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli Minister https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1896748975207952758

If we're on the subject of damning historic quotes, I've got one for you:

  > Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.
- Hamas founding charter

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Post by SilverElfin »

Invictus0 wrote: post #109

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Yep, it’s odd to call it a genocide when their population has been growing continuously, and significantly. Israel can’t both be a highly effective genocidal force and also failing to actually succeed at the outcomes of a genocide.

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random9749832 wrote: post #196
dotancohen wrote: post #187

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That was a young Gazan girl who tripped a Hamas IED that had been set for Israeli troops. That's why there was a camera pointed at it.

>That was a young Gazan girl Are we sure we are talking about the same child who got blown up? There is quite a few.

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