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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by bigyabai »

Zigurd wrote: post #137
hu3 wrote: post #84

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It's funny. When/If Apple releases a foldable iPhone, suddenly most of these critics will think it's the greatest idea ever.

Just like Apple released touchscreen laptops, amirite? They were a bad idea and a crime against ergonomics.

This but unironically. The funniest product in Apple's lineup right now, bar none, is the iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard. Apple spent 15 years refining their replacement for the laptop, and it's a touchscreen laptop that runs less software.

You'd think that Apple would stop themselves after reinventing the 2013 Microsoft Surface. Then they reprised Hololens with Vision Pro - how was nobody paying attention to Microsoft's failures at Cupertino?

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Post by qnleigh »

ZeroCool2u wrote: post #52
dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

I genuinely think book reading is the killer app for foldable devices. A bigger screen for a movie or TV is nice to have, but not a game changer. When you have that much screen real estate you can get a really enjoyable experience reading a novel or just easily read a textbook or research paper in a way that's simply not possible on even the largest of what you might consider a typical size phone. Plus, you no longer…

It could go both ways though. Phones get more heavy use, and foldables will probably always be more fragile than iPads, so they might wind up with more customers replacing a more expensive device more often. iPads last a really long time, which was talked about as a problem for Apple's revenue. Some day we might even get a foldable iPad.

Also I doubt that Apple's foldable phone will cost the same or less than Samsung's, as is suggested in the article...

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Post by rafaelmn »

thewebguyd wrote: post #134
baby wrote: post #109

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You probably are in the target market but it's hard to understand how life changing it is without having one for at least a day.

It's only life changing if you use your phone for most of your computing. I don't, I tried a foldable and barely used it unfolded, just didn't "get it." If I need to do something that's frustrating on a phone screen, I don't use my phone - I almost always have my laptop with me, or my iPad near by. If I don't, it can probably wait until I get home anyway. Consequently, probably why I might be "downgrading" from a pro…

Then you got the wrong foldable phone - you should have gone for the flip - that's way smaller and more pocketable than air. Will probably get you similar battery stats.

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Post by kayodelycaon »

ewoodrich wrote: post #206
wffurr wrote: post #119

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>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

I've been using an iPhone I got from a carrier deal for the last year after using Android phones since the T-Mobile G1, and the notification shade drives me insane on iOS. Notifications in general are so much more annoying to deal with on iOS vs Android. For the love of god please just let me clear all notifications! Also, how Apple seems to deliberately avoid including a shortcut to the full settings anywhere in the…

I think these features are or can be implemented. But they are definitely not obvious. And it’s possible they weren’t there when you first used an iPhone.

To clear all, swipe down on the top left to show Notification Center. You should see an X button right of the words “Notification Center”.

If you want to launch an app from control center, open control center (swipe down from the battery icon), press and hold on a clear area until you’re able to edit it. Add a control. Scroll down until you see the Shortcuts controls and pick Open App, then pick Settings.

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

V__ wrote: post #179
lapetitejort wrote: post #144

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Riffing on a comment I saw on one of LinusTechTip's "Switch to Android/Apple" videos: phone users misinterpret familiarity with intuitiveness and polish. Android is "intuitive" to me because I've been using it more than a decade. It's "polished" because I'm blind to the rough edges.

I would agree with you before Apple switched everything to gestures. Any time I now have to help a family member out on an iPhone I get extremely frustrated. Does the interface want me to swipe, long press or do something else? There are no real hints. Extremely irritating.

I miss the three physical navigation buttons that phones used to have. Yes, they took up a bit of space but they were also unambiguous about what their navigational function was.

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Post by wlesieutre »

sky2224 wrote: post #181
dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

The big future that I see for foldables is as tablets for note takers. Microsoft and Apple have already proven that students are willing to shell out the money to buy $1000+ products just to take hand written digital notes on. If Samsung or someone else could create a foldable that's in the ~$1500 range that can fold out into the size of an ipad mini AND has a good pen usage and storage situation, I believe it will s…

I’d be tempted by a foldable iPhone if (and only if) they have a stylus, but I don’t expect them to.

The form factor doesn’t lend itself to storing a comfortably sized “pencil” along with the phone, and god forbid an Apple accessory exist that doesn’t feel perfectly integrated with the product it goes with.

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Post by WillAdams »

sky2224 wrote: post #181
dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

The big future that I see for foldables is as tablets for note takers. Microsoft and Apple have already proven that students are willing to shell out the money to buy $1000+ products just to take hand written digital notes on. If Samsung or someone else could create a foldable that's in the ~$1500 range that can fold out into the size of an ipad mini AND has a good pen usage and storage situation, I believe it will s…

I used to take notes on my Newton MessagePad back at a time when college professors would _not_ allow folks to use laptops for notetaking --- agree, in addition to folding, you pretty much need a stylus for note-taking (and for an Apple Pencil, I'd worry about the "tick" one gets each time it's touched to the screen).

That said, these days I use a Samsung Galaxy Note 10+, Amazon Kindle Scribe w/ Premium Pen, Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360, and when at a desk, a MacBook and Wacom One display, all with Wacom EMR --- no folding devices, since there doesn't yet seem to be one which uses the normal frequencies (most recent foldables used the same frequency for the stylus as is usually used for the eraser?!?).

I'd give a lot for a competitor to the Lenovo Yoga Book 9i which used a Wacom EMR stylus, or for a phone which used a standard Wacom EMR stylus.

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Post by whycome »

sanswork wrote: post #209
whycome wrote: post #203

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It's crippled though. You can't do something simple like have the comma on main view.

Is that an iPhone restriction or is that Google not maintaining a product?

Pretty sure it's limited due to iOS. Because it does allow period to be added.
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