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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by adastra22 »

pell wrote: post #154
not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

In my experience Claude is quite good at the popular stacks in the JavaScript, Python and PHP world. It struggled quite a bit when I asked it non-trivial questions in C or Rust for example. For smaller languages (e.g., Crystal) it seems to hallucinate a lot. I think since a lot of people work in JS, Python and PHP, that’s where Claude is very valuable and that’s where a lot of the praise feel justified too.

I have had no problems with using Claude on large rust projects. The compiler errors usually point it towards fixing its mistakes (just like they do for me).

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by kennywinker »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #155
Lammy wrote: post #118

Interesting to think about how Apple get to make product decisions based on Gatekeeper OCSP analytics now that every app launch phones home. They must know exactly how popular VSCode is. Facebook got excoriated for doing that with Onavo but I guess it's Good Actually when it's done in the name of protecting my computer from myself lol

Apple doesn't need telemetry to send emails about their favorite coding AI to the 2 Xcode users

Off by about 33,999,998 users, but still a decent dunk.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/apple-now-has-ove...

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by adastra22 »

not_your_vase wrote: post #151
rustystump wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh dawg, those tasks sound intentionally obtuse. It looks like u are doing more esoteric work than the crud react slop us mortals play in on the daily which is where ai shines.

I work almost exclusively with embedded devices, with low level code (mostly C, Rust, Assembly and related frameworks) - and that's where I also ask for help from LLMs.

It works fine in those domains. I speak from experience. You need CI tools the agent can access, and lots of tests.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by adastra22 »

shakna wrote: post #146
CamperBob2 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If enough examples are in-distribution, the model's scroll bar implementation will work just fine. (Eventually, after the human learns what to ask for and how to ask for it.) Why wouldn't it?

Most programs today regularly have bugs with scrolling. Thus, an LLM will produce for you... A buggy piece of code.

LLMs are not Xerox machines. They can, in fact, produce better code than is in their training set.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by herbst »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

You didn't specify any architecture design. Your prompts are about 10% of what would be needed to one shot this. This is what you do wrong.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by onion2k »

pjmlp wrote: post #173

The irony of this, is that Microsoft was trying to push CoPilot everywhere, however eventually Apple, Google and JetBrains have their own AI integrations, taking CoPilot out of the loop. Slowly the AI craziness at Microsoft is taking the similar shape, of going all in at the begining and then losing to the competition, that they also had with Web (IE), mobile (Windows CE/Pocket PC/WP 7/WP 8/UWP), the BUILD sessions t…

"Taking Copilot out of the loop" if you ignore the massive ecosystems of Github, Visual Studio, and Visual Studio Code.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by adastra22 »

Razengan wrote: post #130

Does anybody know why Anthropic doesn't let you remove your payment info from your account, or how to get support from them? I bought a Pro subscription, the send button on their dumb chatbot box is disabled for me (on Safari), and I still get "capacity constraints' limits. Filed a chargeback with my bank just because of the audacity of their post-purchase experience. ChatGPT-5 works good enough for coding too. From…

The Pro plan ($20/mo?) is not and never was unlimited.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by LinuxAmbulance »

kennywinker wrote: post #212
doctorpangloss wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn't need telemetry to send emails about their favorite coding AI to the 2 Xcode users

Off by about 33,999,998 users, but still a decent dunk. https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/apple-now-has-ove...

34 million developers? That number doesn't even pass a basic sniff test. Are there 34 million people that have Xcode installed? That I can believe.
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